Analogue in a living room space : Newton’s system

by newtoncr on TimberNationDoshi AudioOtariATR tape deckAmpex mr-70Ortofon verisimoDurand TOSCAWave kinetic nvs referencDan D'AgostinoAyre AcousticsMagicoT+aVan Den HulSmeLyraCardas Audio CablesJL audioIsotekNordostNessie vinylmasterWolf audio systemAsc tube traps

Description

Music in a functional living space .
Thanks to 
Barry Ober  aka http://www.soundoctor.com/ , for speaker placement, tuning the soundstage and advice on component selection. 
Jordan Goulette and art noxon of asc for room acoustic treatment,
Gary Mulder of ayre and now Yg acoustic, for his advice and mentorship.
Also would like to thank gary radca who got me into reel tapes… I owe you big for introducing me into this world where there is no going back . And Andrew thanks for setting me with the finest machine.

4 dedicated 20 amps circuits with cardas outlets .
Entire system is in balanced configuration.
Amazing sound in my living room.
Been through many diff amplifiers and speakers but never have I heard a better combo .
The rack is from timbernation with solid steel frame custom made for me .
My system as you can see is analogue focused.
Nothing beats reel tape dubs from master tapes.
 . Vinyl through my set up is a close second .

Love the dags playing through the magicos through Cardas cables… the nordost power cords add some balance with increased pace. I like the Cardas /nordost combo instead of a single loom of one brand . To me this provides the perfect balance to suit my taste . 
Got my second system charneys system with his 300b amps, western electric 300b tubes , what  a contrast . I will leave it at that …
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Room Details

Dimensions: 26’ × 20’  Large
Ceiling: 20’

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    • Dan d’agostino Momentum hd preamp
    Preamplifier
    • Dan D’agostino Momentum M-400 mxv
    Monoblocks
    • Magico M3
    With Mpods .
    • JL Audio CR-1 crossover
    Crossover
    • JL Audio Gotham 213 v2
    Subwoofer x 2
    • SME 30/2
    With sme series v tonearm , turntable
    • Lyra Etna SL LAMBDA
    Catridge
    • Wave kinetic Nvs reference turntable
    Turntable
    • Durand tonearm Tosca
    • Ortofon Verisimo
     Cartridge
    • van den Hul The grail SE+
    Phonostage
    • ATR 102 Reel tape deck
    1/2” flux magnetic head stack
    Hot rodded by Andrew kosobutsky 
    • Ampex Mr70
    Tape Head pre amps for atr 102
    Hot rodded by Andrew kosobutsky 
    • Otari MTR-10
    1/4 inch 2 track open reel deck, with upgraded flux magnetic heads
    • Doshi audio Evo tape head preamp
    For the otari mtr10 1/4” deck
    • Wolf Audio Systems Red wolf 2SX
    Streamer
    • T+A Elektroakustik SD 3100 HV
    Reference dac
    • Ayre Acoustics Cx-5xe
    Sacd , CD player
    • Cardas Audio CLEAR BEYOND
    Balanced Interconnects
    • Nordost Tyr 2
    Balanced interconnects
    • Cardas Audio Clear Beyond
    Speaker cable
    • Nordost Valhalla 2 usb
    Best sounding usb cable between my streamer and dac
    • Isotek Nova evo 3
    Power conditioner
    • Cardas Audio CLEAR BEYOND XL
    Power cords
    • Nordost Tyr 2 power cord
    • Nordost Frey 2 Power Cord
    • Nordost Heimdall 2 Ethernet cable
    • ASC (Acoustic Sciences Corporation) Tube traps
    Room treatment
    • Nessie Vinylmaster
    Record cleaning machine
    • Charney Audio Companion Excalibur
    Horn speakers
    • Charneys amps Audio note kit 300b
    • Nordost Qb-8
    Power conditioner

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222222&text=ne
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@grannyring ,
Thank you . My main system components and the room have undergone significant changes . Will be posting pics very soon.

The Charney system was a disappointment. Not my cup of tea . Tried adding a pair of rel subs with no improvement. I hardly listen to the horns and tubes. Not my flavor. Will post recent pics and updates. 

newtoncr

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I must say your main system is just spectacular! Well done.  
Looking at the very same Charney speakers and wonder how things are going for you with that system? Love to read an update. 

grannyring

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You're welcome and I noticed in the horn speaker thread it's a bit of a struggle I would say hang in there. It's a radical change obviously and as you said the new speakers load the room totally differently not to mention breakin. To me you look to be on a good track I hope it works out!

jond

222222&text=ne
Owner
@jond thank you.
The room acoustic management is totally different with completely different rules.
Just learning how the speakers interact with the room and seems like less is more with regard to treatment. I have just hooked them up . Lot more fine tuning to come. Will  post pics once done .

newtoncr

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@newtoncr I was just reading about your Charney acquisitions and had to come take a look looking awesome! I'm pretty sure I heard that speaker, possibly its big brother, at one of the last 3 Cap Audiofests, driven by that same 300B amp fantastic sound! Congrats on a great setup and that Charney gear looks super suave in black.

jond

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Owner
@clearthinker i heard the grail se + in my system and I loved it. Wrote the check immediately. I don’t regret the decision...heard many others in my system but nothing sounded so good with my cartridge  and my electronics.

newtoncr

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Esoteric system.
I note your choice of The Grail.
A couple of years ago I chose the same after long-term auditions of other competitors in my system.  Grail wasn't the most detailed, nor the most realistic, nor the most anything.  But it has an unbeatable combination of all the necessary attributes.  It just puts across what's on the disc.

clearthinker

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почему не повесили с потолка большие (для клубов или кинотеатров) колонки? ... места много - можно получить очень масштабные аудиокартины ... слушать хор, орган, саундтреки

serjio

222222&text=ne
Owner
@jond 
Thank you

newtoncr

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Wow! Impressive setup, great collection of gear and that's quite the room. Congrats on all the effort getting your system to work in your room.

jond

222222&text=ne
Owner
@williamjohnston 
I started working with room treatment on this room about 3 yrs ago . It has gone through many modifications. Including changes in electronics and speakers.
I have worked closely with Jordan at asc. He and art noxon designed the initial treatment based on basic measurements and parameters, The next test was the Matt test for articulation which we would have run and analyzed over a 100 times over the years . We found articulation defects in particular freq ranges we fixed by working on room treatment and speaker placement. It was easy for them to recommend those changes based on simple physics ie wavelength, distance to wall etc ...no electronics or dsp software involved in tuning room. 
The final tweak was by listening and after 3 yrs now I am happy with balance , sound stage and articulation.  

newtoncr

222222&text=wi
Most impressive. By what means did you approach the sound treatment? Curious if you arrived at this via software or if you did it like most of us do. Love your cartridge and cable choices but, in truth, all the rest of it too. A challenging looking but utterly beautiful listening environment

williamjohnston

222222&text=ne
Owner
Thank you .
Yes they do stay all the time.They have specific areas of diffusion and absorption so a little turn messes it up  with usually more absorption that takes the life off the music . 
The attack wall around the speakers help to negate the influence from the balcony , foyer , hallway etc that are outside the room .

newtoncr

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Great room/equipment.

Very unusual speaker/treatment. Getting a living space to cooperate with our gear is the biggest challenge.

Does that stuff stay in the room full time? That's a really nice space.

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