VPN's System - Totaldac, CH Precision, Echole, Krell, Dunlavy, Innuos

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Description

Room Treatment
5/2016 - New room treatment with absorption for main room modes and lots of diffusion. Now working on improving lateral first reflection room treament. 
Results tested with my ears and with Earthworks M30/Roland Quadcapture/REW. 

Performed several mods to the Dunlavy SC-VI speakers: 
(A) External crossovers with original circuit topology:
     (i) upgraded caps and inductors to Duelund CAST copper for the main path,
     (ii) all resistors to Path Audio (sound better than Duelund cast in my crossover),
     (iii) Duelund RS caps for the secondary path and
     (iv) Duelund cast/Mylar for the 220uf in the secondary path,
     (v) Duelund cast silver bypass caps for high and mid CAST copper caps,
     (vi) Changed binding posts to Furutech FT-806R.
     (vii) Kept the two original crossovers for reference, and
     (viii) Final form of external enclosure and vibration control completed in 2017.
     (viii) Put the crossovers on top of two Finite Elemente Pagode Master Reference Mk.II

(B) changed the tweeters to top of the line Seas Crescendo (listened and measured frequency response and impulse response - great improvement, if they did not sound and measure better I would have put back the original Vifa tweeters - yes, this is a radical change),
 
(C) Plan to replace the internal rewiring of the speakers with top hook up wires from Neotech and Mundorf. 

Thanks for your suggestions of additional changes. 

SYSTEM HISTORY: 

DIGITAL SOURCE 
** Totaldac Server (2/2018)
** Innuos Zenith Statement 4Tb as Roon Core (2019)
Innuos Zenith SE as NAS (2017)
Caps Zuma with two Mojo Audio Joule III - one for 12V (main) and one for 9V (USB) (2013) 
Mac Mini 8gb, i7, 256gb SSD (2011) 
Mark Levinson 37 (1995) 
Accuphase CDP (1994) 

DAC 
** Totaldac Twelve SE (2/2018)
Playback Designs MPS-5 (2012) 
Playback Designs MPD-5 (2011) 
EMM Labs DCC2 SE (2007) 
Levinson 360S (1995) 

PREAMP 
** CH Precision L1 (2017)
** CH Precision X1 (2017)
Krell Phantom (2011) 
Levinson 380S (1995) 
Audio Research LS3 (1994)

POWER AMP 
** Krell FPB 750mcx monos (2011), re-capped (2011), re-capped with Nichicon Gold (2020), replaced original fuses with SR Blue Fuses (2020). 
Krell FPB 700cx (2002) 
Krell FPB 600c (1999) 
Krell KSA-300S (1995) 
Aragon 8008 (1994) 

EXTERNAL PASSIVE CROSSOVERS 
** Duelund components (2013-2014) 

SPEAKERS 
** Modded Dunlavy SC-VI (2013-2014) 
Dunlavy SC-VI (1998) 
Dunlavy SC-V (1995) 

XLR INTERCONNECTS 
** 1 pair or Echole Limited Edition Model 2 XLR 7ft (2020)
** 1 pair of Echole Limited Edition XLR 7ft (2019)
1 pair or Echole OMNIA XLR 7ft (2017)
1 pair of Echole OMNIA XLR 3ft (2017)  (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)
1 pair of Echole Signature XLR (2013) 
2 pairs Echole Obsession XLR 7ft (2011 and 2013) 
2 pairs NBS Black Label II (2012 and 2013)  (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)
NBS Omega 0 (2007) 
NBS signature II (1995) 
Kimber (1994)

DIGITAL INTERCONNECTS
** 1 Echole Limited Edition Model AES-EBU for Totaldac Server (2020)
** 2 Echole Limited Edition AES-EBU (2019) for Totaldac DAC (2019)
** Totaldac Gigafilter USB cable at server/reclocker (2019)
** Sablon Reserva Ethernet Cable from Innuos to Totaldac (2019)
3 Kubala Sosna Realization AES-EBU for server and DAC (2018)

SPEAKER CABLES
** Kubala Sosna Realization 2m (2018)
Kubala Sosna Elation (2015)
NBS Black Label II 4ft (two pairs) (2011) (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)
NBS speaker jumpers (2011) 
NBS Omega 0 (2007) (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)
NBS signature (1995) 
Kimber 8TC (1994) 

POWER CABLES 
* Echole Limited Edition Model 2 Power Cable 6ft (2020) for CH X1
* 2x Echole Omnia Power Cable 6ft (2018) for Echole Power supply for Totaldac DAC
* Echole Omnia Power Cable 6ft (2018) for Totaldac server & recloker power supply
* Echole Omnia Power Cable 6ft (2018) for Innuos Zenith Statement
Echole Omnia Power Cable 6ft (2018) for CH X1 (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)
Kubala Sosna Realization (2018) for preamp (X1)
Genesis Absolute Fidelity (2012) for DAC  (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)
Kubala Sosna Elation (2015) for Preamp
several NBS Black Label II (2011) - Other components (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)

POWER CONDITIONING
** Telos Audio Design GNR 3.1 Grounding Box (2019)
** Synergistic Research Blue fuses for Power amps, preamp and DAC (2018-2020)
** Totaldac Twelve directly to Futurech GTX-X dedicated 220V line (2018)
** Fuse box with Siemens SITOR fuses to dedicated circuits (2015)
** FPB750mcx monoblocks and CH L1+X1 each to a dedicated 220V circuit, three in total with Furutech GTX-R(2013)
**PS Audio P10 (2014): for the Innuos Zenith SE, projector, Apple TV and other components (except for monoblocks, pre, dac and phono that use no conditioning and have dedicated lines)
Synergistic Research Black fuses for preamp, dac and phono (2016)
Playback designs DAC, Mastergroove mk.II phono directly to Futurech GTX-X dedicated 110V line (2015)
Audience AR6-TS (2011) sold 
RSA Elgar 220V (for preamp) no longer in use (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)
PS Audio Powerplant (2008) no longer in use
PS Audio P30 (1998) no longer in use

ACTIVE CROSSOVER for two pairs of mono amps (no longer in use)
Pass XVR-1 (2013)

ANALOG FRONT END (gave up on analog in 2017, focusing on upgrading digital)
Technics SP10 mk3 120V modded by Steve Dobbins  (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)
Schroder LT Tonear (FOR SALE - CONTACT ME)
Lyra Atlas (Sold 2017)
Tom Evans Mastergroove mk2 (Sold 2017)
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Room Details

Dimensions: 43’ × 15’  X large
Ceiling: 9’

Components Toggle details

    • Innuos Zenith Statement
    Innuos Zenith Statement is used as Roon core server, feeding the Totaldac Server through its ethernet output using a Sablon Reserva Ethernet cable.  It has internal linear power supplies and a 4TB SSD.   I previously had a Zenith SE. 

    For streaming (Tidal) the Innuos is connected to the modem/router using a Synergistic Research Atmosphere X Reference Ethernet cable (with ground connected and no filter). 

    The cable modem/router is connected directly to the fiber optic cable and is powered by a Mojo Audio Joule V5 linear power supply.  

    The Zenith Statement is currently on the floor, so I am looking for a better base. 
    • Totaldac Server
    With two separate power supplies.
    • Totaldac Gigafilter USB cable
    Between Totaldac server processor and its reclocker
    • Totaldac Twelve SE
    Fantastic DAC.  The DAC is powered by a three output Echole Power supply.
    • Echole Limited Edition AES-EBU interconnects
    One Limited Edition Model 2 AES-EBU (from server to reclocker) and two Limited Edition AES-EBU from the reclocker to the two DAC boxes.
    • Echole Limited Edition Model 2 XLR 7ft
    from Totaldac Twelve SE to CH Precision L1
    • Echole Power Supply for the Totaldac Twelve DAC
    Three output power supply for the Totaldac Twelve DAC.
    • CH Precision L1 Preamplifier
    Great preamplifier, replaced my Krell Phantom improving soundstange and realism.

    The CH L1+X1 currently sits on the lower shelf of the SRA Scuttle mk.3.  
    • CH Precision X1
    Power Supply for the CH L1
    • Echole Omnia XLR 7ft
    from CH Precision L1 to Krell 750mcx monos
    • Krell FPB-750mcx
    These Class A monoblocks are the best I have ever heard. Each has a dedicated 20amp 220V line. The amps were changed (at Krell Dealer) to 220V (improved sound) and Furutech power receptacles. The monoblocks have custom SRA VR3 platforms under them. They were fully re-capped in 2013. In 2020 the caps were upgraded to Nichicon Gold where possible, and the fuses upgraded to SR Blue fuses.
    • Kubala Sosna Realization 2m Spades
    Great speaker cables from top to bottom
    • Duelund CAST external crossover
    Pair of external crossovers for the Dunlavy SC-VIs using Duelund CAST caps and inductors (for the main signal path), Duelund RS caps (for secondary paths). Path Audio resistors.

    The two external crossovers are now on top of Finite Elemente Pagode Master Reference mk.2 platforms (8/2019).
    • Dunlavy Audio Labs SC-VI
    with upgraded Duelund external crossovers, upgraded tweeters, and other upgrades.
    • Echole Cables Limited Edition Model 2 power cord
    For the CH Precision X1 that feeds the CH Precision L1
    • Echole Omnia Power Cord - Four cables
    Power cables for: (i) Echole/Absolare power supply for Totaldac DAC  (2 cables), (ii) Totaldac 3x power supply for Totaldac Server and reclocker (1 cable), (iii) Innuos Zenith SE
    • Telos Audio Design GNR 3.1 Grounding Box
    For the Innuos, Totaldac, and CH Precision preamp.  I got the unit with six spades to mini spades cables.

    I am waiting to receive two USB and four RCA cables for the Telos.
    • Running Springs Audio Scuttle Mk.3 rack
    For the DAC and preamp. Makes a big difference.
    • Running Springs Audio VR 3
    Two dedicated, custom supports/vibration control for  2xKrell fpb750mcx
    • Finite Elemente Pagode Master Reference Mk.II Platform
    Two Pagode Master Reference plaforms.  One under each of the external crossovers. Improved timbre and soundstage.
    • Varios Accoustic Treatment
    Wall on back of speakers:
    - Center with 3 difusers
    - Center with lateral difusers
    - Center with 150hz absortion for room mode
    - Corners: two 40hz ressonators for room mode
    Ceiling:  Difuser
    Side wails: Two sets of Difuser/Absortion for first reflection
    Floor: Rug and large foot stool
    • Stewart Filmscreen Model A Firehawk 100
    electric tensioned screen.  Planning to upgrade to 120"
    • audiodharma Cable Cooker Anniversary Ed. 3.5
    Cooks interconnects, cables, and capacitors
    • Earthworks M30, Roland Quadcapture, REW
    Room accoustic measurement, for speaker positioning, room treatment, and maybe DRC
    • Cara 2.2 plus
    Room Simulation and positional optimization software

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222222&text=vn
Owner
I upgraded a few cables from Echole Limited Edition to Limited Edition Model 2: The power cable at the CH X1, one of the AES-EBU of the Totaldac, and the XLR interconnect between the Totaldac and the CH L1.  I am very happy with the results.  Even more realistic timbre, soundstage and dynamics. Well done Echole!

vn101606

222222&text=vn
Owner
Please take a look at initial text description of my system, click "read more...".  I included a system history that you may find interesting. Cheers.

vn101606

222222&text=vn
Owner
Hello Thieliste,
Thank you!  I am sure you will be very happy with the Totaldac Twelve mk2 + CH L1+X1.  Make sure you buy top level cables for them.
Cheers,

vn101606

Center
Hi Vicente nice system you have there, i also plan to purchase Totaldac Twelve mk2 + CH L1+X1 + Gryphon Mephisto stereo, speakers Borresen 03s.
Cheers.

thieliste

222222&text=vn
Owner
Hello Audiotroy,

Thank you!

The Onkk Cue looks promising, I hope to hear it at some point.  However, I am not going back to analog any time soon.

Cheers,

Vicente

vn101606

128x128
Love your dedication you have one fantastic setup.

audiotroy

128x128
If you are looking to get back to analog we heard a table which will way outperform the technics even their atest reference table.

Onkk Cue direct drive designed and built by a clock maker.

The Onkk Cue made me want to play vinyl again, just amazing sound.

audiotroy

222222&text=vn
Owner
Hello Prdprez,

Thank you, and congrats on you Dunlavy SC-V!  They are great!
I sent you a private message with your answers.
Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

222222&text=pr
So I've been really intrigued by your Dunlavy upgrades, having read about them here, at WhatsBestForum, and AVSForum.  After spending years, on and off, searching the world over for the best drop in tweeter I ended up coming to the same conclusion you did. So that's cool. Thanks for sharing all of your experiences. 
I'm going to finally embark on overhauling my SC-V by replacing the tweeters, crossovers and wiring. Going to do it all at once. 
My hope was to simply duplicate the existing crossovers so that I always had the originals as untouched backups. The one thing standing in my way is the inductors that John used in the resonant circuits. They are the hand wound units that had both a specific inductance and resistance. I'm wondering what your solution was for these specifically. Did you manage to find suitable replacements or were you forced to pull the originals? While I'm asking about those, since the resonant frequency of the Seas is about 400-500 Hz lower than the D27TG, did you ever consider replacing the inductor in the tweeter circuit that is specifically tuned to this? Or maybe it was close enough not to bother?
Thank you for any assistance/advice you feel like offering. Very much appreciated. And thank you, again, for taking the time to post your project for us all to see!

prdprez

222222&text=vn
Owner
Hello Daniel,

Thanks!  I just read what you wrote on your system page, and I will try some of your ideas/mods.  Great work!

So far I have not found power cables for the Krell 750mcx that sounded better than the original cables in my system, and I tried some very expensive cables.  I hope to try the Shunyata at some point.

Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

128x128
Great system! I am sure that it sounds amazing and that you had a lot of fun modifying your gear. 

This is so weird...I did basically the similar mods on my system. I own the Krell FBP-350MCX, of which I disconnected the original internally wired power cord to install a Furutech Rhodium power inlet. I also installed Synergistic Research Blue Fuse inside the Krells to great benefit. 

The Krell amps are powered from a dedicated 20 A circuit on 240V (sounds much better than 120V) using Shunyata Research Anaconda CX power cord, which sounds much better than the Krell cord via a Furutech GTX-R wall plate.

I also modified my Duetta Signature Xovers with Mundorf Supreme capacitors, Alphacore ribbon inductors, Duelund metal-wound resistors and replaced internal wiring with Neotech solid silver wire. Also replaced speaker connectors with top of the line silver WBT binding post.

Cheers,

Daniel

dasign

222222&text=vn
Owner
Hello Oldager,

Thank you!

I purchased the L1 first and then had the opportunity to hear the X1 in my system for a week before deciding whether to purchase.   The improvement brought by the X1 is very easy to hear.  Better soundstage (deeper), more ambiance, better bass. 

Important to have both the L1 and X1 on some vibration absortion (like the SRA Scuttle mk3 rack). You have to try with and without the connecting spickes, because using the internal spikes makes a big difference (L1 yes X1 yes, L1 no X1 yes, L1 yes X1 no, L1 no X1 no), I prefer L1 no spikes and X1 no pikes (but on the SRA Scuttle).

So, definetly go for the X1, or upgrade directly to the CH L10.

Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

222222&text=ol
Spectacular system, VPN...!

Did you upgrade to the CH L1 & X1 simultaneously, or did you get a chance to hear the L1 with and without the X1. I'm currently considering the X1 upgrade for my L1/P1's...

oldager

222222&text=vn
Owner
Innuos Zenith Statement replacing the Innuos Zenith SE:  Better detail, imaging, ambiance, more open, better timbre in lower frequencies. Great upgrade!

vn101606

222222&text=vn
Owner
Hello Jay23,

The diffusers and absorbers behind the speakers are covered by an accoustically transparent black fabric. 
Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

222222&text=ja
shadorne must not have seen the Blue fuses. 😏

Did you remove the diffusers behind the system, or were they covered up?

jay23

222222&text=vn
Owner
Hello Shadorne,

Thank you!  The Seas Excel Crescendo tweeters make me happy every time.  Great integration and much better than Vifa.
Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

Center
Love everything about your setup! Those Seas Excel tweeters are the business!

Ag insider logo xs@2xshadorne

222222&text=vn
Owner
Hello JA,

Thank you! 

Regarding the CH + Krell, the CH L1+X1 was an important upgrade vs. the Krell Phantom which is already a great preamplifier.  I heard lots of top preampliers and power amplifiers in my system, and the CH preamp was a great move. The CH L1+X1 improved the quality of the bass, extended and improved the soundstage and detail.

The Krell and CH work very well together.  Some people say that the Krell FBP750mcx has a bit of hardness and darkness, but I know it is not their fault, but the fault of the cables people used 20 years ago, and lack of other ajustments. 

There are several things that are necessary to make the 750mcx achieve their full potential, to produce beautful sound, very open, powerfull, extended, no hardness, just excellent:

a) Each monoblock with dedicated 20amp 220V circuit.
b) Directly into the power outlets, no power filters
c) Have dealer change them to 220V
d) recapping by a Krell dealer
e) top amp stands such as SRA, HRS or Finite Elements (I use SRA VR 3.0)
f) great interconnects and speaker cables such as Echole Omnia and Kubala Realization
g) The Krell dealer installed furutech power cable receptacles in them, so I will be trying different power cables. I recently purchased two 20amp Kubala Realization to compare, and I am waiting to receive them soon.
h) Have great front end, preamp, speakers, cables, room, so that they do not limit the great sound that the 750mcx monoblocs can produce.

Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

222222&text=ja

Beautiful photos and room. A very interesting combination of gear as well.

How do you like the Krell/CH Precision combo?

Happy Listening!

jafant

222222&text=vn
Owner
Important new upgrades:

a) Added Totaldac Twelve SE DAC plus Totaldac Server.  Now the Innuos Zenith SE is used as a NAS.  The Playback Designs was sounding great with the Innuos, but the Totaldac Twelve is even better: more detail, better soundstange and realism.

b) Upgraded speaker cables to Kubala Sosna Realization. Upgraded CH X1 power cable to Kubala Sosna Realization.  The Realization sounds better than the Elation: better extension and air on top and better realism on bottom, better soundstage focus. 

I am very happy with the changes.

vn101606

222222&text=vn
Owner
Several recent changes:

a) Added CH Precision L1 + X1 preamp.  Improvement over the excellent Krell Phantom in terms of detail, imaging, realistic timbre, and more open sound.  

b) Added 2 pairs of Echole Omnia interconnects, replacing Echole Obsession.  Improved realism of instruments, detail, and more open sound. 

c) Added Innuos Zenith SE (2Tb SSD) as server, replacing CAPS Zuma. Big improvement in soundstage and low frequencies. 

d) Put my Playback Designs MPS-5 DAC on the RSA Scuttle mk.3 rack, replacing the turntable.  Big improvement for the DAC sound.  

e) Put my analog front end rig in stand-by.  Sold Lyra Atlas and Tom Evams Mastergroove mk.2. I will focus on upgrading my digital front end for a while.

Cheers,

VPN

vn101606

222222&text=vn
Owner
Hello Slowikpl,

One of my photos above show two 56uF Duelund CAST-cu capacitors being cooked using the power cable configuration.  The minimum time will vary depending on the size of the cap, but usually a minimum of 4 to 6 days.

Alan Kafton sent me detailed instructions.  Instead of copying and pasting his long email, I suggest you ask him directly at [email protected] and I am sure he will send you the instructions.

After I installed the caps in the crossovers, it took a few more days playing actual music to finish the conditioning.

Cheers,

VPN


 

vn101606

222222&text=sl
Hello all.

I have many duelund caps like:

50uF, 8.2uF, 6.8uF, 2.2uF  Duelund CAST 
40uF Duelund VSF copper

Also some 600V Duelund CAST :

4.7uF ,3.3uF , 2.2uF , 1.5uF , 1uF


Heavy someone a piece of advice how long should I clock my Duelund's with my new Audiodharma Cable-Cocker ? 

slowikpl

222222&text=vn
Owner
New room treatment. Removed the previous, mostly absorption, treament in the wall behing the speakers and replaced with:
- Center with 3 difusers
- Lateral difusers
- Top and bottom with 150hz absortion for room mode
- Corners: two 40hz ressonators for room mode

The sound now has more air, more detail, and the bass is more controlled and faster.  Had to ajust a bit the speakers positioning and toe in. Very good improvement.

vn101606

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