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I've been adding a few pieces to the audio puzzle lately trying to attain the best SQ I can. Added a 2 level hard maple amp stand for the preamp and amp. Supratek Cortese LCR Gen 3 preamp on top - the David Berning ZH-270 sits on the bottom level.

12/16/19 - Added a Powerware 9120-1500 UPS - power is fully regulated, conditioned and protected with a true sine wave output.

A new Grado Aeon 3 moving iron (MI) cartridge was just installed for Christmas 2019. John Grado himself called me the other day to finish up the paper work so we had a nice chat about the technical aspects behind the model change. Super nice guy and obviously a gifted engineer to make some of the finest cartridges in the world. The apple didn't fall far from the tree here in the Grado family!

After I hung up I sat in my chair thinking about our conversation and some of the amazing people that are in this audio business and by life's serendipity I've had a chance to meet and learn from. It's really what makes this hobby of audio so interesting and allows us to learn - standing on the shoulders of giants no doubt!

12/21/19 Finished aligning the Grado Aeon 3 early this afternoon - spent the rest of the afternoon spinning vinyl. It's hard to put into words how great the system sounds now - easily never better!

Playing through the Gallo Nucleus speakers the freshly aligned Grado Aeon 3 just blew me away right out of the box. The sound stage is now huge - it's way outside the speakers. Almost corner to corner wide on the front wall. The sound is so good I'm not sure I've ever heard better anywhere. Stunning seems a poor choice of words. Amazing!

The Aeon 3 housed inside a Cocobolo wood body mounted on the end of 12" Pernambuco arm wand of the Reed 3P looks just so right! The Certus DD440 is a solid platform to mount these on - wonderful synergy among them.

In September I added the fabulous Supratek Cortese LCR Gen 3 preamp.  Stunning in sound quality. Depth, width, body that is fully fleshed out, images painted in solid form upon the front wall. Just fabulous!

It's pretty much audio nirvana over here.....


12/28/2019 - swapped Supratek Cortese power supply Vrec - took out Sovtek 5AR4 and replaced with Amperex 5AR4/GZ34 - Sittard, Holland - Philips factory - October, 1957. Bugle Boy with double D getters.

1/20/2020 - Pulled my pretty Amperex BB 5AR4 - system had become dull sounding. Decided to swap back the Sovtek 5AR4 that was factory original. SQ improved right away. I was crushed...

1/25/2020 - added the Degritter ultra-sonic RCM. Works as advertised and does a wonderful job. LP's come out pristine and sound just fine - very quiet vinyl when played. Using distilled H2O from grocery store but I did buy some Record Research Labs (MoFi) Pure Record Rinse to try.

2/8/2020 - Recently it seems I've been experiencing more groove noise/ticks from seemingly very clean LPs. I just added the Degritter RCM which does an excellent job - using the heavy wash cycle. Vinyl looks pristine - well worth it even at it's price. Yet, my nice clean new vinyl seemed just a little bit to noisy for me.

On a hunch with roughly 2 months on the new Grado Aeon cartridge I thought its worth a check. Broke out my mint LP protractor and took a look. Not way off but was outside the scribed line on the tool. Spent some quality time stooped over looking at a very small object through a small piece of glass till I was satisfied. That's the worst thing in all of audio.....

After a new re-alignment it sounds much better - a quieter background with few ticks. Solid improvement - interesting I thought too. The alignment wasn't that far off yet it seems that was enough to cause what I was hearing. I guess I'll see how it sounds over the next few days.


3/5/2020  Noticed some tube noise coming through the speakers while listening, tapped on Supratek tubes, V6 - 6H8C responded when tapped. Removed CCCP 6H8C tubes from
V5/V6 locations and installed NOS Philco branded Sylvania 6SN7-GT from 1950 that I got from Andy at VTS. Sounded great after a little warm up, tube noise floor cleaned up nicely.

System is really sounding great these days - especially on a clean well recorded LP. Pretty much all components have settled in and so far happy with my choices...

Ordered a Miyajima Zero B mono cartridge. I needed a low compliance cartridge to mate with the heavy GrooveMaster II tonearm. Looking forward to hearing this combination.

3/7/2020 - Decided to swap the Supratek preamps phono input tubes V1 & V2. From the factory it came with Phillips branded Mullard (Mitcham) 6688/E180F tubes.
Installed Amperex 6688/E180F PQ made in Holland - 1962.

What a nice choice that was. Sound stage depth is deeper, width wider and air around the performers is noticeable. Rock solid images painted on the front wall. Almost an aura or halo of glowing sound - the weight of instruments and tone is really amazing. Boy I love this Supratek preamp! The Grado Aeon cartridge really shines too - just a tremendous reproducer! Holographic pictorial sound that tracks wonderfully getting everything the groove has in it out!

Have to give a big thumbs up on the Degritter ultra-sonic RCM. This RCM is the cats meow! Works flawlessly and presents an ultra clean LP for playing. Really cut down on ticks/pops on even brand new vinyl. Well worth the price of admission!

3/15/2020 - With the addition of the V1 & V2 Amperex E180F phono input tubes I noticed the highs were just a little tipped up. Not awful but noticeable. Swapped out the Philco branded Sylvania 6SN7-GT in positions V5 & V6 and installed RCA 6SN7-GT from the late 1940's.

Tone, timber and weight seem better, the tipped up highs are gone now and overall sense of balance that seems more correct. Will run this setup for awhile but so far seems really nice.

5/6/2020 - Lately I've been disappointed with the SQ of system, just didn't seem "right" so I dug around and came up with a book that others have thought highly of - Jim Smith, Get Better Sound. After reading most of it I got to work with the speaker setup. Implemented his X-Y speaker-chair relationship. This made a huge difference and seems like a much better sound field.

I also swapped a couple tube pairs in the Supratek preamp. I had pulled not long after installing the RCA 6SN7's - they didn't do it for me and went back to stock factory Russian 6H8C tubes. The V6 - 6H8C Russian output tubes (which sound really great) was getting micro-phonic. I swapped out V5 & V6 and installed Philco branded Sylvania 6SN7GT tubes (Bad Boy's) from 1950. These are very nice with a top end sparkle. Since these seem a touch tipped up and sparkly for my taste I also swapped out V1 & V2 - phono input - Amperex/Philips made in Holland with the factory stock Philips branded Mullard - Mitcham, Great Britain. The Mullard's seem a touch more "balanced" - not quite as tipped up highs of the Amperex tubes. The Amperex are very good but the combo of Amperex and Sylvania was pushed to far in the treble region. Sylvania and Mullard seems like a very nice combo.

The SQ was improved significantly after adjusting speaker/chair placement and with tube swaps in the Supratek. I have to say I'm loving the Supratek preamp overall. Wonderful preamp in every sense!


5/11/2020 - Installed some NOS Russian Reflektor factory 6H8C tubes made in 1973. SQ not as tipped up as the Sylvania tubes. More bass and more balance across the frequencies. So far this tube seems the best that I've tried. This is what came stock from Mick and he likes the best too. Overall, a very nice weight and balanced tube. 


6/10/2020 - Mounted a Miyajima Zero B mono cartridge to the GrooveMaster II tonearm. 100 ohm loading, 3.5g VTF. After playing several LP's and adjusting the VTA the sound became more balanced and natural sounding. Probably take 10 hours or more to break in.


4/22/2022 - Removed Eaton Powerware UPS. Installed Puritan Audio Labs - PSM-156 power block. 6-outlets all rated at 15A. Came with a Puritan Classic 2M power cord. So far seemed like a solid move. 

Next decision is AC power cords for some components. That's going to be a much tougher decision....


5/18/2022 - Added a VeraStarr Grand Illusion II high current power cord. Plugged into the Berning ZH-270 amp to Puritan PSM-156 power block. 

This was a used power cord so likely it was already burned in. It didn't take long for me to hear the difference in sound quality change. The Berning amp had a home made PC I had made from a recipe other guys have used. With the new VeraStarr GI2 HC plugged in the music seemed more fleshed out. Not any more clear or articulate - those attributes have always been there but a fuller, more robust sound. I was listening to my local classical station at first. They were playing a orchestral trumpet concerto. Since I grew up playing a coronet I was very familiar with the sound of a trumpet. It should have some bite or edge to it along with the brassy sound - and there it was - it actually sort of shocked me.

I then put on some vinyl - a SAM record (which are just fabulous by the way) The Ronnell Bright Trio - drums, upright bass and piano. Piano is a tough instrument to get right, both in recording and replay. I was pretty amazed at how good this LP sounded - all 3 instruments not only sounded like I think they should they sounded like they were 10 feet in front of me in the room. So verdict is a very positive noteworthy change in SQ and money well spent! High five to Mike Powell the builder of these power cords!


10/16/2022
Rearranged some equipment in the rack in preparation for a new amp. Went 300B parallel SET. 

Changed some tubes in the Supratek Cortese pre-amp. Removed Sovtek 5AR4 in rectifier position in power supply. Installed Bendix 6106. Also, changed the output tubes,
Sovtek 6H8C with a fresh set of 6H8C. I believe these are made in the Reflektor plant in Russia. I've tried other 6SN7 - Sylvania/RCA - but the Russian 6H8C really does a nice job and their cheap.


10/28/2022 -
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Room Details

Dimensions: 14’ × 16’  Medium
Ceiling: 8’


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    • Supratek Audio Cortese LCR - Gen 3
    Newest Gen 3 Cortese LCR - added 2 phono inputs so both tonearms are in play.

    Sound is magnificent! Stage is deep and wide with solid imaging. Air and space around each performer. Just a fabulous product!
    • Convergent Audio Technology CAT SL1 Signature Mk III
    March/April  2018
    New tubes in all 10 positions. Andy at Vintage Tube Services provided tubes using mostly Amperex - Holland tubes. Sounds pretty sweet now.

    The CAT pre-amp started it's life as a Mk II. Updated to Mk III in 2015 but never spent enough time to get it to sound right till now. The MK II to MK III change removes 12AU7 tubes in V6 and V7 positions in the line stage and replaces them with 6922 type.

    The performers seem to come from a inky black background. Maybe not as magical as the Mk II but definitely much quieter. The noise floor is extremely low with new tubes.

    The setup is in a new room - acoustically treated with Real Traps which make a huge difference in sound quality. Overall, a really nice intimate presentation.
    • The David Berning Co. ZH270
    Berning ZH-270 amp
    ZH-270 amp
    Feedback - Low
    Feedback - Med
    Feedback - Normal
    3dB feedback @ 8ohms
    7dB feedback @ 8ohms
    12dB feedback @ 8ohms
    Level control
    12:45 position
    2 o'clock
    full CW
    Output Impedance - measured @ 1amp / 60Hz
    8.7ohms
    3.8ohms
    1.8ohms
    Speaker Damping
    low
    medium
    high
    Sensitivity - 70 watts @ 8ohms
    0.2v
    0.35v
    0.7v
    Signal to Noise - 20kHz bandwidth
    85dB
    91dB
    94dB
    Distortion - 4 & 8ohm loads @ 70watts
    2%
    1.50%
    1%
    Distortion - 8ohms @ 5watts
    0.50%
    0.30%
    0.20%
    Frequency Response - 1Watt @ 8ohms
    +0dB, -1dB / 1.5Hz - 21kHz
    +0dB, -1dB / 1.5Hz - 35kHz
    +0dB, -1dB / 1.5Hz - 60kHz
    Full Power Bandwidth - -3dB @ 8 ohms
    2Hz - 35kHz
    2Hz - 50kHz
    2Hz - 80kHz
    Typical Crosstalk @ 1kHz
    -55dB
    -62dB
    Typical Crosstalk @ 10kHz
    -48dB
    -58dB
    Input Impedance - 25Kohm
    The level control settings are backed off from full CW position for the different feedback settings to equal the full CW position of the Normal feedback settings.
    Speaker damping relates to the control that the amp has over the position of the speaker diaphragm. High damping has the effect of causing the speaker
    diaphragm to start and stop quickly. Its sonic attributes also show up most dramatically in the bass. High damping is likely to give a tighter, dryer and
    more analytical sound. Low damping is likely to give a more open and resonant sound.
    4/12/2018
    • Volti Audio Rival
    135lbs of kick ass is how I'd describe these Volti Rival speakers. I've never had better in my room and I'd be hard pressed to say if I ever heard better. 15" woofer, horn mid-range and tweeter.

    I had Greg Roberts - the designer and builder of these beauty's deliver them personally to my humble abode and set them up. Nothing like having the actual man himself in your room tweaking the placement so it's just right.

    After Greg was gone I needed to hear what they could really do. Played Pink Floyd - Shine on You Crazy Diamond from the Wish You Were Here vinyl at 100dB+....

    Oh my.......

    With all the acoustical treatment and bass traps I have the sound was clean, clear, articulate and just plain mind boggling.

    I've played Be-Bop jazz, female/male vocals, big band, acoustic, blue grass, orchestral - all were fabulous - if the recording is good. These are 100dB efficient and will really let you know everything in the playback chain. 

    Like Ferris said - "If you have the means I highly recommend it"

    Q - Was this a good purchase?
    A - OMG - go listen to these monsters. 
    • Anthony Gallo Acoustics Gallo Nucleus Reference Ultimates Speakers

    Specs: 26-20KHz  +/- 3 dB, 90-dB/watt/meter sensitivity

    CDT tweeter:

    330-degree Cylindrical Diaphragm Transducer (CDT)

    Kynar plastic with silver metal film (ink) coated over it. No voice coil or magnet is used.

    Drivers:

    Dynaudio drivers, 17W75XL04, made in Denmark, 4-ohm nominal impedance.

    Original spheres (bass-balls) are 12” in diameter made out of polyethylene with later production models using spun aluminum. 5-way Tiffany binding posts are gold plated.

     

    • Teres Audio Certus DD440
    Direct Drive, 55 lb platter made of solid brass and a paper resin phenolic. Demo model made personally by Chris Brady of Teres Audio.
    • Reed Tonearms 3P
     3P - 12" Pernambuco arm. Made by a ex-USSR rocket scientist. Really wonderful, easy to use and adjust.
    • Audio Creative GrooveMaster II
    12" titanium armwand, 4x34 Cardas Clear tonearm wire, Ebony headshell with Miyajima Zero B mono mounted, VTF 3.5g - cartridge loading 100 ohms.

    • Turntable stand British Columbia, Canada
    Beautiful maple wood used to make the table for the Teres turn table.
    • Grado Labs Aeon 3 – Lineage Series

    Grado Aeon specs

    ·         Output = 1mV @ 5 CMV

    ·         Controlled frequency response = 5 Hz - 75 KHz

    ·         Channel separation: avg. 33dB - 10 Hz - 30 KHz

    ·         Loading: 47,000 ohms

    ·         Inductance: 30 mH 

    ·         Resistance: 72 ohms

    ·         Non-sensitive to capacitive load

    ·         Chassis mass: 12 grams

    ·         Tracking force: 1.6 - 1.8 grams

    ·         Static Compliance: 20cu

    • Miyajima Labs Zero B mono

    http://theaudiophileman.com/0-7mil-tipped-miyajima-zero-b-miniature-mono/


    Specification:

    Body type : African blackwood - also known as mpingo

    Frequency response : 20Hz - 20KHz
    Output level : 0.4mV
    Impedance : 6 ohm
    Recommended load : 100 ohm
    Tracking force : 2.0 - 4.5g  3.5g recommended
    A version Stylus type : 1.0 mil conical for pre 1967 mono recordings
    B version Stylus type : 0.7 mil conical for most post 1967 mono recordings
    Compliance 100Hz : 8×10-6cm/dyne
    Weight : 11.8g


    Noriyuki Miyajima designed the Zero to be the finest mono cartridge in the world.

    What Makes Miyajima Cartridges Special?
    There is nothing unique about using African Blackwood for cartridge bodies, but Miyajima cartridges have a unique, patented design that really is different to any other moving coil cartridge available.  Miyajima understood that traditional moving coil cartridges suffer from resonances and distortion, firstly due to the tie-wire that typically holds the cantilever and coil assembly against the magnet pole piece with a compliant insert between to allow some movement.  The tie wire has to be very precisely tightened so that the coil assembly is correctly aligned, but its disadvantage is that it resonates, introducing distortion.  The second source of distortion is the typical iron coil former of a moving coil cartridge, which actually distorts the lines of magnetic flux between the pole pieces, as it moves through those lines.  Miyajima have a patented cross ring coil structure that has a non-magnetic core, neatly side-stepping this problem.  The next innovation was to eliminate the tie-wire altogether.  Instead, Miyajima use a pointed slide bar that  locates the coil assembly very precisely from behind at its pivot point, which is also the center point of the magnet, while gently pushing the coil assembly against a compliant insert.  This means that the coil assembly can pivot unimpeded by a tensioning wire.

    Miyajima mono cartridges are true mono designs, which means they have only one coil that operates in the lateral plane only.  They have no vertical compliance and cannot therefore be used to play stereo records (to do so will cause damage to a stereo groove).   Asking the stylus to do only one thing, eg wiggle from side to side, means that it is totally insensitive to vertical movement in the groove, and that manifests as very low groove noise, as well as very faithful tracking of the groove modulations.
    • Bent Audio MU
    Bent Audio-MU SUT. Uses Stevens and Billington TX-103 transformers potted in dual mono cylinders. This is the copper version, 1:10 ratio which produces a 20dB gain.
    • Tandberg Tuner - 3001A
    The Tandberg engineers were given orders at the time to build the best tuner they could so they did - and went a little overboard with this model. Once the accountants in the front office found out how much it was going to cost it was too late. This was big money back in the late 1970's when this first came out.

    Plenty of info on this model. Just a beautiful example from the height of analog tuners.
    • Nakamichi CR-7a
    One of NAk's best deck. Had it serviced by Willy Hermann in April 2016. Cleaned and calibrated. Runs like a champ!
    • Real Traps Bass trap
    These bass traps are the real deal - it makes a huge difference in acoustics, sound quality and musical enjoyment.
    • PratherMade Bedford design
    Double Forward Facing Bedford Unit.
    Hard maple. Added heavy duty casters to the bottom.
    • TimberNation 2-level amp stand
    Hard maple - preamp at finger reach when spinning LP's
    • Degritter Ultra-sonic RCM
    Ultra-sonic RCM - works like a champ! LP's come out the high frequency bath in beautiful pristine condition. SQ does not seem hurt from the high frequency scrubbing while the vinyl is very quiet when played. Expensive - but you could make the argument its a good value when balanced against the time and mess of manual cleaning.
    • Triode Wire Labs American Speaker cable
    12' of TWL American speaker cable with bi-wire Cardas CAB bananas on both ends.
    • Triode Wire Labs Spirit II interconnect
    1M and 2M Spirit II interconnect
    • Triode Wire Labs High Power Digital American and Ten power cords
    TWL power cords for components.
    • PI Audio Group UberBuss power distribution
    The UberBUSS uses four standard Pass & Seymour 5362A Heavy Duty copper receptacles, capacity rated at 40A. I had mine upgraded with the optional receptacles named the “UberPuerto” which are Pass & Seymour 5362A hand-polished and treated with proprietary RFI mitigation compound internally with graphene-treated contacts.


    • Russian Reflektor 6H8C output tube
    Output tubes in the Cortese. I've tried several big name American made. I think these sound the best. Very solid tube all the way around. Amazing really for the price.

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After speaking with Volti Rival designer/builder Greg Roberts he suggested moving the Rivals further apart to get a better soundstage. With 12’ TWL American speaker cables installed that was easily accomplished.

The increased speaker separation of 11” has increased the soundstage width. This seems to give a better delineation of the performers allowing more air around them.

The Volti Rival speakers continue to break in along with the TWL cables. Sound quality and performance is just tremendous! I’ve never owned any speaker that can perform like these Rivals do – effortless sound, deep bass that can shake the windows and floor joists if you turn up the knob enough. Actually, the Berning amp impresses me all over again how well it sounds with its new speaker load.

Easily the best sound I’ve ever had in my room. I find myself digging out albums just to hear how they sound now. Male/female vocals, big band, be-bop jazz, rock and roll, orchestral pieces – all done with fantastic results that bring so much more to the experience of listening to music.

It will be interesting to see how the sound changes when I receive the Border Patrol S20 parallel SET amp with Western Electric 300B tubes which is currently being built by Gary Dews. Now that’s a Christmas present!

 

mr_slate

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Installed a full set of Triode Wire Labs cables.
Bi-wire speaker cables with Cardas CAB bananas - 12ft
Spirit II interconnect - both 1M and 2M
High Power Digital American power cords
Ten power cords

Probably take a few weeks for the dust to settle and cables to open up and show what they can do.

Peter Grzybowski of TWL - the affable and very capable owner/designer hand builds these cables. Materials used and build quality are first rate. Many reviews of these - for what you get a very high value with high end performance.

Dave Elledge of the PI Audio Group sold me his own personal hand built UberBUSS power distribution block with upgraded UberPuerto Pass & Seymour 5362A receptacles.

Several reviews of this power block available on the net.

Top shelf components used in their hand built products that make a discernable SQ difference. Both men are highly knowledgeable in their fields, easy to work with and super nice guys. I voted with my dollars - like so many have before me. If your looking their products won't disappoint.

mr_slate

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Greg Roberts, the owner/designer/builder of Volti Audio speakers drove 16 hrs. from Baxter, TN to personally deliver and set up my new Volti Rival speakers in my room. That’s pretty impressive.

Uncrating them in the garage you get a better sense of scale. This is a good sized speaker weighing in at 135lbs. You’ll need a 2-wheeler to move this guy.

 

My choice – the middle Rival, uses the same parts as the large Vittora but in a smaller body – which is still a solid largish speaker.   

 

I wasn't prepared for how they conveyed music though. I’m not very good at waxing poetic in audiophilia so I won’t but I will say I’ve never heard better sound in my room and maybe anywhere I’ve ever been – though,  I haven’t been many places so….

 

Bass was a huge change with that  15" woofer paper driver doing what big woofers do. Chest felt thumps if the music had it and you turned up the knob.

 The mid-range - where vocals live was just really nice. It’s a different sound for me these new horns having grown up with cones and domes. I can’t quite say yet. Very nice but different.

 

The tweeter horns also presented an effortless sound. Really both horns sounded amazing. There’s a certain uncongested flow to the music. I might say a freedom of constraints – just a really wonderful presentation. If the music is soft acoustic and gentle it will be just that. Or just as easily grab you around the throat and shake with such seemingly unlimited effortless power it’s sort of scary. Like these Rival’s are monsters dressed up concealing themselves as speakers.

It really didn’t matter what type of music I played – it all sounded amazing. I found myself playing all sorts of music just to see what it would sound like. Almost like I now had speakers that would really let me hear what was in those black grooves.

 

Last but not least is the actual beauty of the Rival speakers. The build quality and woodworking is first class. I chose a highly figured English Oak veneer with a lacquer finish which looks amazing. Just a gorgeous pair of speakers!

 

It’s tough making a choice in this hobby of audionerosis  when faced with dozens of them. I did good with this one.

mr_slate

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mr_slate

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If interested in my system changes I've been posting in the description section.

mr_slate

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Hi there!

Reed 3P has been very easy to use, no problems at all. Seems very well engineered and thought out. I only ever need to adjust VTF which can vary with weather. Azmith and VTA are adjustable while playing which is very nice.

Fit, finish and user friendly are first rate. In all I couldn't be happier. 

Not cheap but compared to some arms I think it was a pretty good value for what you get.


Hope that helps!

B

mr_slate

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please share your experience with the Reed 3P

jw944ts

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Hi James,

I have used a SUT before and still have them - Bent Audi MU pictured but that was when I was tracking a Benz Micro Lo4 cartridge with the CAT preamp and needed the gain. Even though the CAT has a high gain phono stage I had to crank up the gain so much the tube noise floor was fairly apparent. Adding the SUT helped very much in that case. When using the SUT there was a subtle decrease in resolution - like a very slight veil was imposed - not enough to make me dislike it since it solved the gain problem. It was definitely a choice of pick your poison.

The Supratek has such a high gain phono/line stage it doesn't need the SUT - in fact I'm running with the high/low gain switched to low gain.

I'm not familiar with the Allnic H7000 (V?) but it looks like your stuck - the Aeon is looking for 47K ohm loading which is only available on your MM input. :-(

Grado tech help has been excellent - easily the best I've ever had from any manufacturer. If they recommend no SUT I'd have to place my bet with them.

Of course that doesn't help you - sorry.....

Brian

mr_slate

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Hello. That is a wonderful collection of equipment.
 I am curious as I want to get the grado aeon. But talking w grado they are dead set against the use of a SUT. My allnic h7000 has only 40dB gain in mm where the aeon needs to be. 
  Are you using active step up gain?  Have you tried an SUT w any luck. 
  Thanks much - james 

jamesdonahue

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Hi there Cytocycle!

Thanks for stopping by and a good question on Audience cables - one I haven't fully answered for myself yet - at least with the speaker cables.

The Harmonic Technology cables I have (1.5m Truthlink interconnect and 8' speaker cables) have been in my system since around 2003. I would say they have been a very solid copper cable (which I prefer) and give an honest representation.

I used a pair of the first generation Audience Au-24 2m interconnect which ran from my CAT preamp to Berning ZH-270 amp and seemed just fine. No real complaints with them at the time.

Over the years with Audience coming out with the new SX interconnect model and reading good things from many mags/people decided to try it. I got a 2m interconnect and installed it between the CAT preamp and Berning amp. I would say it was a "noticeable" upgrade for the better. It just seemed like a clearer representation of the music. Sort of like peering through a window that had been cleaned. Since the SX 2m interconnect seemed like a solid move I decided this past fall to try the speaker cables which is what is in place now.

Here is where the story takes a turn - I also added at roughly the same time a new Supratek preamp and just days ago a new Grado Aeon 3 cartridge.

Basically I have a whole different system and the change in sound quality (SQ) is leagues different for the better and on so many levels it's really hard to say what effect the Audience Au-24 SX speaker cables have made.

I have wondered exactly your question - and have the HT speaker cables hanging in my closet to run an A/B/A test to answer it for myself. Since the new additions are still "burning in" I'm content to travel down the road for another 100 hours or so before getting my wrench out and doing the experiment.

That was a long winded answer of "I'm not sure yet" to your simple question. But, I do plan on getting that answer and probably within the next month or so.

My gut reaction and a pure guess at this time is that the SX speaker cables were similar to my experience with the SX interconnect.  A solid move allowing a clearer view into the music.

Finally - just a little clarification with the location of where the Audience SX - 2m interconnect is being used. With the new layout of my system I had to swap the Audience SX  out the preamp to amp connection. It's now between the Tandberg tuner and Supratek preamp. I'm using a 1m of Luminous Audio Technology Synchestra Reference between the preamp and amp.

I've always thought this was an excellent cable and it's doing a great job connecting 2 highly resolving components.

Hope that helps for the time being....

Brian

mr_slate

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Well thought out system!  Curious on what you thoughts on upgrading from Harmonic Technology Pro 9 to the Audience AU24 SX?  I'm considering that myself now.

cytocycle

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