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I finally decided to post my system. The timing is good now as this system will stay in place for the foreseeable future. I will continue modifying and tuning my own gear. However, am now doing it for others and will keep my current rig as is moving forward. I am also starting an exciting new cable company named Acoustic BBQ.  

I cannot overstate how much additional performance one can extract from their current system with some well planned and executed modifications/upgrades. Every piece in my system was built and or modified/upgraded by me.  Most builders must build to a price point and to make any money they simply cannot afford to use the best parts. They just cannot. 

To those who don’t know much about the Lyngdorf 2170, I highly recommend doing some research. It replaced close to $20,000 (retail price) worth of tube separates and wire.  Do I enjoy it as much? No, I enjoy it more. Just a very special piece and the hub that brings the entire sound system together. 

The Dali Epicon 6s are wonderful speakers.  Perfect for those looking for full range sound without the huge footprint. They are also wonderful to look at and place in your living space. They do it all folks.  These speakers are musical and nothing like some of their recent razor sharp resolving past designs. The Audiophile’s Wife aporoves! 
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Room Details

Dimensions: 34’ × 22’  X large
Ceiling: 10’


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    • Lyngdorf Audio TDAI 2170
    This one is a special find for me.  Built in dac and room correction really bring out the very best of any speaker attached to it. I have modified this unit with Jupiter copper foil & Duelund silver foil output capacitors, Mundorf silver/gold internal wire to binding posts, constrained layer damping of chassis, Furutech IEC, Audio Magic Pulse Generator ZX and Mad Scientist Kegs.
    • Balanced Power Technologies BP-1
    I plug two Core Power Technologies conditioners into this unit.  The BPT plugs into a dedicated 20 amp line via a Porter Port outlet. I have also extensively modified this unit with AC outlet filtering caps from Audience, copper shielding, ERS tape/cloth and constrained layer damping.
    • Core Power Technologies Equi=Core 150 & 300
    These plug into my BPT balanced power conditioner to my server and Lyngdorf 2170 .  I modified these as follows:

    - added DC blocking circuit
    - added chassis damping
    - copper wrapped the toroid
    -wrapped toroid with ERS cloth tape
    - replaced metal toroid bolt and top plate with Teflon and wood
    - replaced power cable with Furutech FP SO22N
    • Sound Science Music Vault II Ultra
    Added chasis damping and Linear Power Supply to power the SOTM USB card. Used Audiophile Optimizer and Fidelizer software programs to improve sound quality.

    I use Tidal with Roon. Roon does a great job combining my 1400 ripped CDs and Tidal streaming for easy nagivation. 

    I use both Audiophile Optimizer and Fidelizer software to improve the Sonics of my dedicated music server.  
    • Ifi Audio Micro USB 3 reclocker/filter
    Wonderful addition to my computer server front end. Really eliminated the last vestige of digital glare and artifacts.
    • Ifi Audio iSilencer
    Helps filter out noise out of my music server.
    • TeraDak Linear power supplies
    I have two of these that I modified with Mills resistors, Nichicon capacitors, IXYS Fred bridge rectifiers, chassis damping and other goodies. I also built upgraded DC power cords using Canare Quad core bulk wire and Oyaide connectors. 

    One powers the iFi Micro USB 3 and the other powers my SOTM USB card.  
    • Ifi Audio DC purifier - power filter
    I have two of these on the DIY power cables feeding the iFi Micro USB 3 reclocker/filter and the SOTM USB card in my music server.
    • Western Electric 10 gauge stranded wire in cloth
    I use this as speaker cables running from my Lyngdorf 2170 to my outboard crossovers.
    • My own brand of Acoustic BBQ Full Rack USB cables Acoustic BBQ
    My very own recipe beat out my previous favorites including Wireworld, Curious and Phasure Lush. These are very special sounding. I aim for beautiful tone. This cable is all about tone! Rich and warmish mids with silky smooth highs and nice dynamics. I use cotton and copper.....that’s it! I will be introducing my line of Acoustic BBQ cables shortly.
    • DIY power cable DIY power cable
    Made using the great sounding Furutech Blue cable - Furutech FP - SO22N and carbon fiber barreled,  rhodium AC connectors.  Used from wall to BPT power conditioner.
    • Herbies Audio Lab Tenderfeet
    Under outboard crossovers and Core Power Tech 150&300.
    • Total Contact Contact enhancer
    Treated all power and speakers connections.  Treated all crossover connections and part lead outs.  Treated speaker driver solder tabs and wire lead outs from the driver to the solder tabs. Treated USB cables and DC power cables.
    • Dali Epicon 6
    I upgraded the crossover replacing sand cast resistors with Path Audio and Mills MRA. I replaced economy tier Solen caps with Jupiter Flat Stacked HT Caps. I love these for their beautiful tone. They are no longer available as the manufacturer found it hard to make any money on the time consumed and difficult built process these require. I had a special stash. 

    I also used the newer Jantzen Alumen Z caps on the mids. They are very musical and open and the perfect choice for reasonably prices caps needed in tight spaces. Great choice and result. Much better than the Solen caps they replaced. 

    I used the Audyn True Copper cap on the ribbon super tweeter replacing a very cheap film cap. 

    Finally I replace the electrolytic shunt cap with a nice Clarity CSA.  

    The results are just fantastic and well worth my time and effort. 


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I just responded directly to you.   Yes on all counts! Very musical speaker that sounds refined and nuanced.  Nice body, great tone, air and top to bottom coherence.

grannyring

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Great system! I also sold off all my separates and switch to lyngdorf 2170. Cant be happier! 

About Dali Epicon 6 with Lyngdorf - fo you think they can play rock/pop music well? Listening too loud is not a requirement. 

radiohead99

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Great looking system Bill and I'm sure it sounds excellent!
Love those speakers...

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@rx8man 

Thank you Pat! We are enjoying the music. 

grannyring

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Thank you for the nice comments @shadorne and @zephyr24069. Much appreciated.

grannyring

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Great pics! Great setup. I love the speakers -stunning!

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Grannyring....it's great to see your system after reading many posts and hearing many positive comments. Thank you!  Must sound amazing,...enjoy!!!

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Bill, I could of expected nothing less than the best from you!!

Excellent work again as usual!!  Take care and enjoy.

rx8man

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I am sorry to say I have never heard your speakers so can’t really offer any good help on that question. Which dac to use have?

grannyring

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I m impressed.thank you..I was intrigued by your speakers.i have studio 100v5s.paradigm.how can you compare yours with mine as far as sound?also,I m impressed with my trip Vista dac.is there anything better for a grand?

hydroplane1971dl

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Just saw your post @jond 

Thanks and enjoy the week and music.  

grannyring

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@grannyring Smart idea putting casters on the coffee table. Also I love those two blue chairs off to the left. My GF always wanted a sectional sofa, and it's great, but now that we have it all I want is a chair. Alas no place to put one! Cheers and a happy 4th to you and Kim!

jond

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To those looking at my room I would like to add this.  When I really want a nice extended listening time my coffee table is on gliders and pushed away from the listening space.  I also place large pillows in front of the fireplace and on the floor between the speakers. The result is a very nice improvement in my listening experience. One way I deal with a shared living space and music room.

grannyring

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Hi Scott.  I really have no idea what the TC compound is made from.  I don’t know the ingredient statement or process for making.  I think the new product is some kind of mat to place on or under gear.  I heard such from other Agoners.  I do not know for sure however.  

I did not place on the crossover after burn in, but right away as part of my crossover mod.  I will tell you I think the best use of this stuff in a speaker is not the crossover, but rather the driver positive and negative solder tabs on the back of the drivers.  I did this separately and like the results. 

The Dali speakers are sounding very good for sure. Kim loves the way they look and sound so all is good here.  

grannyring

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Hi Bill - The Dali speakers look great! I saw that you applied Total Contact to all of the Dali connections. Were the caps/wire fully broken-in before you treated them? Can you describe the difference in sound quality? Any idea what they mix the graphene with? Finally, what is the new product they are now discussing? I would ask over on the Total Contact thread but that has turned into chaos so thought I'd just ask directly.  Thanks, Scott

sbayne

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I love the Dali Epicon 6s.  My Lyngdorf 2170 has room correction which really takes away any possible effects of a non-symmetric room. My center image, stage size and imaging are spot on to my ears. 

Thank you for the kind comments.  What speakers did you end up with?

grannyring

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Beautiful looking system/room. I have a room similar to yours. My left channel is not backed by a wall. I've considered putting in pocket doors to balance out the room. Came very close to buying DALIs as well. Happy listening!

clarke10925

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@grannyring Of course you're right design and implementation can transcend raw materials. And I doubt I can hear up to 15K so I would probably never hear that tweeter! Sounds like your really enjoying them and not missing your Living Voice's so congratulations.

jond

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@jond 
The ribbon only plays at 15k and above. The real work is done by the dome. The combo is seamless and so smooth.  Surprising. Acoustic Zen Crescendo speakers also use a ribbon and the designer has that speaker sounding beautiful with great tone.  Possible to implement a ribbon well.  Not the driver so much as the design and implementation in the speaker.  I least that has been my experience with ribbon drivers. 

grannyring

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Beautiful those are gorgeous speakers, love the veneer! Personally I've never heard a ribbon tweeter I could live with but glad you, and Kim, have found speaker happiness. Cheers and happy listening!

jond

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All updated @jond 

Lot of work updating ones virtual system.  Goodness, I could have modified my power conditioner in the same amount of  time 😊

grannyring

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Thanks for asking.  I just finished updating my system and we both love the speakers. I was very happy with the Dali Epicon 6s in stock form. However, I did tune the speaker more to my liking with crossover upgrades.  I was looking for improved midrange presence, more overall bloom, and a tad more refinement. My upgrade plan was built around these goals.  Part choices were done carefully with these goals in mind. This is a very good speaker. Kim loves the look and sound and I like the sound very much.  The build quality is spectacular. I have about 500 hours now on my crossover upgrades and the results are most pleasing. These are certainly music lovers speakers that are easy to listen to and enjoy.  They are now the equal of the Living Voice speakers in the mids, however the bass is more impactful and deep.  Amazing what Dali manages to achieve in bass performance with 6.5 inch woofers.  Amazing. The highs are also sweeter and more extended.  I can now say these are staying put.  

I will be further tuning my system as I learn and incorporate more from Michael Green.  I like his fresh and innovative approach to audio.  

grannyring

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@grannyring Any news, or pics, of the new speakers?

jond

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Thank you for the nice comment @jafant.   I need to follow my own VS thread more often.

grannyring

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Classy room with clean lines. Sweet looking system Grannyring
Happy Listening!

jafant

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