Description

The system title sums up why I do this and where I seek sanity breaks in life while indoors...

Many system configurations have come and gone since the late 70s,....two small turntable and cassette systems (my first with my father who had a local swing band and taught me the love of playing and listening to great music), two 'early tech' CD "college and after..." systems, then took several years off and jumped back into things with home-theater from the days of Laser Disc followed by DVD; 2.1, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1, and then 7.1+2ch hybrid then over to 4.1.  The time and funds required to also chase such HT+2ch hybrids is also not sustainable......at least not for most of us.  I sold off the HT portions 2008-2009 and have focused back on 2-ch with a LOT more happiness ever since!

Many thanks to the countless people I have spoken with, read posts from, interacted with and learned much from over the years. The system has attained a state of organic and natural qualities and pure enjoyment of music that I have sought for a very long time!!!

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Room Details

Dimensions: 19’ × 25’  Large
Ceiling: 9’


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    • Legacy Audio Calibre XD Active (Custom-build)
    Will be moving to a first of it's kind dual-cabinet full range speaker setup composed of;

    - Legacy Calibre XD custom build: dual bass drivers instead of the usual 1 to cover mid-bass and a passive radiator added.  Bi-wirable as well for ultimate flexibility...

    - 2 Legacy Foundation Subwoofers to cover bass and sub-bass

    - Legacy Wavelet new 'any speaker' model with algorithms setup to particularly drive this unique combination...

    Early testing indicates better bass extension than even AERIS (hard to believe but true) and the flexibility to run with active monitors only or as a full range system. Should be fun!!!
    • Legacy Audio Subwoofer Foundation
    Will be moving to a first of it's kind dual-cabinet full range speaker setup composed of;

    - Legacy Calibre XD custom build: dual bass drivers instead of the usual 1 to cover mid-bass and a passive radiator added.  Bi-wirable as well for ultimate flexibility...

    - 2 Legacy Foundation Subwoofers to cover bass and sub-bass

    - Legacy Wavelet new 'any speaker' model with algorithms setup to particularly drive this unique combination...

    Early testing indicates better bass extension than even AERIS (hard to believe but true) and the flexibility to run with active monitors only or as a full range system. Should be fun!!!
    • Legacy Audio Subwoofer Foundation
    Will be moving to a first of it's kind dual-cabinet full range speaker setup composed of;

    - Legacy Calibre XD custom build: dual bass drivers instead of the usual 1 to cover mid-bass and a passive radiator added.  Bi-wirable as well for ultimate flexibility...

    - 2 Legacy Foundation Subwoofers to cover bass and sub-bass

    - Legacy Wavelet new 'any speaker' model with algorithms setup to particularly drive this unique combination...

    Early testing indicates better bass extension than even AERIS (hard to believe but true) and the flexibility to run with active monitors only or as a full range system. Should be fun!!!
    • Legacy Audio Wavelet DAC/Preamp/RoomEQ Correction Processor
    Will be moving to a first of it's kind dual-cabinet full range speaker setup composed of;

    - Legacy CaliberXD custom build: dual bass drivers instead of the usual 1 to cover mid-bass and a passive radiator added.  Bi-wirable as well for ultimate flexibility...

    - 2 Legacy Foundation Subwoofers to cover bass and sub-bass

    - Legacy Wavelet new 'any speaker' model with algorithms setup to particularly drive this unique combination...

    Early testing indicates better bass extension than even AERIS (hard to believe but true) and the flexibility to run with active monitors only or as a full range system. Should be fun!!!
    • Esoteric Audio P-02 SOTA Transport
    After 8 years with a P-03U/D-03 combo and more years prior with UX-1 Ltd and DV-50s models, the upgrade to the P-02/D-02 gives me true SOTA sound that is life-like, organic and precise altogether!
    • Esoteric Audio D-02 SOTA Dual-Mono DAC
    An absolutely stunning dual-mono DAC,...best yet for me and the best I've ever heard of all units auditioned...
    • Cybershaft (Japan) OCXO Premium Limited v2 10 Mhz Premium Limited Master Clock
    An amazing, precise, ultra-low phase noise and low-jitter 10 mHz master clock whose documented test results (for this unit) equal or better the rarefied test specs of the BVA OCXO reference standard device...this clock has brought such an improvement to my system's playback quality that it is hard to put into words.

    Now recently back from Cybershaft having been converted from custom build prototype to current production version, better power supply, 102SSC lead wiring to and from the transformer, 3-output 50/75-ohm distribution amplifier board...all the best of Cybershaft's latest creations!

    Test results of the overall unit are even better than before using the same OCXO OP21 level master clock assembly. This now tests out better than any other OCXO clock I've seen including the BVA!
    • Legacy Audio Powerbloc2
    After several years of musical nirvana using the Esoteric A-02 to drive the mids and tweeters on the Legacy AERIS and later full-range for the TAD R1, with the install of my latest almost totally active Legacy speaker config, the A-02 has been relegated to driving a pair of tweeters.  Arguable this sounded great but this was wasting most of the capabilities of such a fine amp so I've now sold it and will be replacing a great sounding Legacy Powerbloc 2 dual-mono stereo amp (and Powerbloc monos if Bill ever brings them out) to drive the upper frequencies on this great speaker setup!
    • Shunyata Research TRITON v3 (with built-in star-grounding plane)
    An outstanding power conditioner on loan from a friend to help fill the gap left by the great combination of Isotek EVO3 TITAN and SIGMAS tethered together by an Isotek EVO3 OPTIMUM 5-meter umbiical....

    The incorporation of a star-grounding station into the TRITON v3 is nothing short of brilliant! All the aftermarket high-price solutions various vendors and others including Granite Audio that I've used for well over a decade miss the boat on one key aspect IMHO in that they are separate devices from the nexus device that is a power conditioner by definition and that should be the reference point for any grounding scheme.  The results even with "Delta" level grounding cables from SR into the TRITON v3 is noticeably better and more perfectly integrated to the power reference and grounding plane of the system as a whole!  Well done Shunyata!!!
    • Shunyata Research TYPHON QR
    This system-level upgrade-delivering component from Shunyata has caused refinement and musicality in my system that I find difficult to describe in words.
    The system just sounds like MUSIC!!!  The component of the TRITON v3 and
    new TYPHON QR is in my opinion, impossible to beat!!!
    • Avatar Acoustics AfterBurner8 Duplex Outlets...
    The Avatar AfterBurner8 are back in the system,...pure copper and brass with minimal coating to prevent corrosion is the way to go!
    • Cutler-Hammer, GE MLC and EP 20amp Dedicated Circuit (10gauge)
    Custom-installed dedicated circuit with 10/2 wire, Cutler-Hammer 200-amp main house panel, copper bus-bars, tied to GE Master Load Center Sub-Panel (also with copper bus-bars), with 6/4 wire. Environmental Potentials EP-2050 and EP-2750 units installed to provide Surge Suppression, Wave Form Correction and Ground Filtering.... Upgraded the whole-house grounding scheme as follows; - New Meter, Box and Meter-head unit with fresh contacts, screws and all parts - Dual Solid Copper 10ft ground rods separated by 8 feet (exceeds code) - Solid copper #4 (exceeds code) wire from meter base in continuous loop through to box grounding rods - Cadweld Kit Applied for permanent and non-clamped bond (clamps loosen over time and corrode) Many thanks to RonC ('cdrc') for all of his insight and advice on this key topic!!!
    • Environmental Potentials EP-2050 Surge Supressor Wave-Form Correction
    The EP2050 WaveFormCorrect Surge Suppressor is wired into the main panel to protect the whole house as well as my dedicated circuit in a sub-panel. The EP-2750 Ground Filter unit is wired 1-per-circuit and will remove noise and other unwanted 'stuff' on the ground for the system. This coupled with GroundZero star grounding provides a solid power and ground plane for my system! The EP2050 is the large round disc-like object with 2 red LEDs at the bottom-right hand corner of the main panel
    • Environmental Potentials EP-2750 Ground Filter
    The EP-2750 Ground Filter unit is wired 1-per-circuit and will remove noise and other unwanted 'stuff' on the ground for the system. This coupled with GroundZero star grounding should return many positive attributes.
    • Whole-House Ground CADWELD Kit & Dual Ground Rods
    Upgraded the whole-house grounding scheme as follows; - New Meter, Box and Meter-head unit with fresh contacts, screws and all parts - Dual Solid Copper 10ft ground rods separated by 8 feet (exceeds code) - Solid copper #4 (exceeds code) wire from meter base in continuous loop through to box grounding rods - Cadweld Kit Applied for permanent and non-clamped bond (clamps loosen over time and corrode) Many thanks to RonC ('cdrc') for all of his insight and advice on this key topic!!!
    • Adona Corporation AV45CS4 and AV45CS1 (multiple)
    Provides full-range isolation and vibration control as well as rock-solid structural support for the heaviest of high-end components...
    • Composite Audio CF-2010 Platforms (7)
    Wonderful and reasonably priced refinement to all the attributes of the Adona rack system,...I have yet to find any situation or external effect impacting sound quality after adding these platforms
    • EdenSound TerraCone Custom Isolation Footers
    Used to isolate and refine the Legacy Calibre XD and Foundation stack.  Best isolation, musical clarity and visual beauty all rolled up into one great solution!
    • Harmonic Resolution Systems DPX Large Damping Plates Silver (5)
    Reported to pull in and dissipate airborne and chassis vibrations from all types of components...
    • Harmonic Resolution Systems DPS Large Damping Plates Black (2)
    Reported to pull in and dissipate airborne and chassis vibrations from all types of components...
    • Harmonic Resolution Systems DPX Medium Damping Plates Black and Silver (4)
    Reported to pull in and dissipate airborne and chassis vibrations from all types of components...
    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Gold Speaker Cables 9-foot (1 pair)
    An amazing pair of speaker cables that provide exceptional dynamics, frequency range, imaging and energy in all music!
    • Elrod Power Systems MASTERS SERIES Statement Gold Jumpers (4)
    An over the top, all out assault at a full range jumper.  These bring added bass extension, bass articulation and overall frequency spectrum improvement to an already fantastic speaker!
    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Gold XLR 6-foot (1 pair)
    The latest revelation from David Elrod based upon the refinements found in the Diamond and MBX2 line of cables.  I utilize this special interconnect to connect the outputs of my Esoteric D-02 DAC into the inputs on the Esoteric C-02 Preamp....simply stunning!!!
    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Gold XLR 4-meter (1 pair)
    The latest revelation from David Elrod based upon the refinements found in the Diamond and MBX2 line of cables. .  A stunning interconnect that connects my Esoteric C-02 Preamp to the Esoteric A-02's input section...
    • Shunyata Research SIGMA with TAP Polarizer 110-ohm XLR AES/EBU 2-meter (2)
    Simply unbelievable when used as the AES connection between my Esoteric P-02 and D-02!  Easily beat my 5-year reference AES/EBU cables!!!
    • Shunyata Research SIGMA CLOCK-50 50-ohm BNC:BNC Digital Clock Cable 2-meter w/TAP Polarizer (3)
    I believe this will become 'the' defacto reference for 50-ohm clocking cables in the industry. Like the SIGMA AES/EBU cables I have taken into my system, these have surpassed the performance of my long-time reference cables. I also had the good fortune to test the new Shunyata CLOCK-75 clocking and SPDIF cables with equivalent results....
    • Shunyata Research Sigma XLR 2-meter
    • Shunyata Research Anaconda Zitron XLR (added KPIP) 6-meter
    • Elrod Power Systems MASTER SERIES Statement Gold Power Cords 15-amp (3) and 20-amp (1)

    I installed ONE of these in the system one day on my Esoteric A-02 power amp to replace a 2 year old Elrod Statement Gold next-generation cable as a test.  The cable was cooked for 6 days and then rounded out by David on his system to a full 2 weeks of burn-in.  They are beyond any expectation that I could have!

    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Gold 20-amp 10-foot PC (1)
    This power cord is state of the art in terms of the energy, dynamics and musicality that it brings to my system!
    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Gold 15-amp 6-foot PC (1)
    State of the art in terms of the energy, dynamics and musicality that it brought to my system when used to power all my 15-amp equipment!
    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Silver PC 10-foot (1)
    Custom built black on black Statement Silver 10-foot power cord with the new Furutech FI48 connectors, excellent!
    • HDPLEX 200watt dual-rail LPSU
    An outstanding multi-output DC Linear Regulated Power Supply to drive the Legacy Wavelet
    • Revelation Audio Labs 'Passage' CryoSilver Reference XLR3-to-XLR5 DC Umbilical (Custom)
    This is my 2nd setup to utilize this amazing DC Umbilical. It's so good I returned to it and ordered another one custom made after selling my original one together with a Legacy AERIS/Wavelet/HDPlex combination several years ago.
    • B.M.C. PureUSB1 5-meter
    Outstanding powered USB cable for high-end audio listening through the D-02 DAC.
    • Music Shelves Section #1 Many Genres CD XRCD SACD DVDA
    I love music, all kinds, shapes, colors and types (no friggin' rap!!!)! That is why I follow this hobby with a passion. I have an extensive collection pf music in many genres and formats from pipe organ, classical, jazz, all the way to hard rock, electronica/techno and everything in between. The new house affords me a chance to spread out a bit more though I still need another shelving unit or two!!!
    • Music Shelves Section #2 Many Genres CD XRCD SACD DVDA
    I love music, all kinds, shapes, colors and types (no friggin' rap!!!)! That is why I follow this hobby with a passion. I have an extensive collection pf music in many genres and formats from pipe organ, classical, jazz, all the way to hard rock, electronica/techno and everything in between. The new house affords me a chance to spread out a bit more though I still need another shelving unit or two!!!
    • Music Shelves Section #3 Many Genres CD XRCD SACD DVDA
    I love music, all kinds, shapes, colors and types (no friggin' rap!!!)! That is why I follow this hobby with a passion. I have an extensive collection pf music in many genres and formats from pipe organ, classical, jazz, all the way to hard rock, electronica/techno and everything in between. The new house affords me a chance to spread out a bit more though I still need another shelving unit or two!!!
    • PRIOR 2-channel: TAD R1 MK2s, Esoteric, Cybershaft, Elrod, Isotek
    Loved this system in many ways, lasted about 2 years,....many things evolved during this time, power cords, interconnects, power conditioning, speaker cables, my overall listening tastes and a distinct missing/longing for the extremely musical experience of Legacy Audio speakers, active room correction, etc... Don't get me wrong, the TAD R1 MK2s are within their stated range as perfect a speaker as I've heard in many aspects but the bottom octave rolling off halfway up and the bottom half octave rolling off even more plus my preference for the Legacy AMT tweeter and super-tweeter sound led me back in very short order!
    • PRIOR 2-channel setup with LEGACY AERIS, WAVELET & HDPlex
    I love this setup and will be sad to see the AERIS and all of its active-speaker benefits with great RoomEQ by the WAVELET and HDPlex Custom PSU leave my system.  This has impressed all who have heard it and me daily for the past 1-2 years. Truly Amazing!!!
    • PRIOR 2-ch with Legacy FocusSE
    Prior to the arrival of the AERIS statement reference speakers, this was the configuration of the system. I will miss the FocusSEs from the point of view they gave me several great years of listening and produced far more than their price point would have indicated. A great speaker in a great sounding setup!
    • PRIOR 2-channel setup, Legacy Focus HDs biamped...
    The system has evolved and been refined many levels over how it sounds quite a few years ago. Prior generations centered around high-end Tara, AQ and Shunyata with Classe pre-amplification and dual NL 12.1 amps in a vertical bi-amp configuration.
    • PRIOR All Legacy Audio 7.1 and 2-channel hybrid setup, etc
    This is the system configuration many years ago when I attempted to go all out for 7.1 HT and 2-channel all rolled into one system. The impact, musicality and overall enjoyment factor on the HT portion of the system based upon custom-built Edge amplification, Classe HT surround-proc, 2-channel pre-amp, multiple pairs of Legacy speakers in all positions plus a REL B1 subwoofer with Velodyne processor was off the charts however the 2-channel never attained what I have always hoped for in my primary system. It took about 2 years to reach the decision but several years ago I decided to focus on 2-channel listening and have not looked back ever since.

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Updated the list to clean up things that are no longer in the system.  Will post updated photos after I return from Munich High End 2019...

The Legacy Powerbloc2 is fully broken in and is an incredible addition to the system. It is a surprising experience as it is full digital amplification that does not sound like it at all and the system sounds quite amazing to me.  

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Updates....

First bit of news....after several years of musical nirvana using the Esoteric A-02 to drive the mids and tweeters on the Legacy AERIS and later full-range for the TAD R1, with the install of my latest almost totally active Legacy speaker config, the A-02 has been relegated to driving a pair of tweeters.  Arguable this sounded great but this was wasting most of the capabilities of such a fine amp so I've now sold it and will be replacing a great sounding Legacy Powerbloc 2 dual-mono stereo amp (and Powerbloc monos if Bill ever brings them out) to drive the upper frequencies on this great speaker setup!

In other news, the 10 MHz master clock is just recently returned from Cybershaft in Japan where it was converted from custom build prototype to current production version, better power supply, 102 SSC lead wiring to and from the new transformer, addition of a  3-output 50/75-ohm distribution amplifier board...all the best of Cybershaft's latest creations brought to production specs.

Test results of the overall unit are even better than before using the same OCXO OP21 level master clock assembly. This now tests out better than any other OCXO clock I've seen including the BVA!

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Updates....

First bit of news....after several years of musical nirvana using the Esoteric A-02 to drive the mids and tweeters on the Legacy AERIS and later full-range for the TAD R1, with the install of my latest almost totally active Legacy speaker config, the A-02 has been relegated to driving a pair of tweeters.  Arguable this sounded great but this was wasting most of the capabilities of such a fine amp so I've now sold it and will be replacing a great sounding Legacy Powerbloc 2 dual-mono stereo amp (and Powerbloc monos if Bill ever brings them out) to drive the upper frequencies on this great speaker setup!

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Apologies for the delay,...work has been taking much time including international travel and when I'm home I don't jump on the forums as much as I used to as I'm having so much fun listening to the new setup that I just focus on that.   Decision to change speakers was a combination of life events (upcoming sale of a house, move to temporary quarters while a build is planned) and just flat out missing the Legacy sound and performance. This new setup exceeds even the bass extension and overall musical engagement of my AERIS setup and having Wavelet back in the system to compensate for room effects and remove the need to consider room treatments is a huge step up.  Could not be happier!

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What prompted you to change speakers? Congrats by the way. It seems like you're having a great time.

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With additional time on this configuration, the addition of EdenSound TerraCone custom footers between the Legacy Calibre XD and Foundation cabinets.  

These provide a very dramatic improvement in overall system articulation, image size and location of each instrument and voice as well as the total ensemble playback experience.  The extra vertical spacing introducing is clearly also  adding to the mix in term of soundstage overall size....I am extremely happy with these upgrades.  Dan puts out  some amazing value and provides extraordinary customer service!!!

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Updated a few photos...Happy New Year everyone!

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@zipost This combination is the most fun I've had listening to music (and I believe I can add the qualifier 'ever' to that),....I have run the gamut of musical styles through these and with the speakers easily going flat to 16Hz in room and not being bashful about it either this is clearly the most impactful, fast, musical bass I've ever experienced. The way Bill took this active system to its fullest extreme with the dual ICE amps instead of 1, passive radiator and dual woofers instead 1 in the Calibre XD and then letting them focus all focus on only mid-bass on up delegating all bass and sub-bass duties to the Foundation cabinets is a brilliant stroke.  The have better bass extension, speed and accuracy than my prior setups with Focus SE (passive bi-amped) and AERIS with Xilica 4080 and later Wavelet.  I spent 2 solid days 12+ hours playing nothing but various big pipe organ works, most of which are on very full-range dynamic SACDs from JAV and AEOLUS and I have to say I've never heard pipe organ out of any of my systems like this. Big symphonic, rock, techno/electronica, hard rock and taiko drumming are all at all-time highs in terms of playback experience too.  One other thing,....playing 24 hours per day during break in and having music on 12+ hours since, it never ceases to amaze me on listenable and non-fatiguing these and all Bill's larger speakers are.  I could not do this with other speakers I've heard, that much is certain.

Imaging breadth, depth, wrap-around aspects, ambiance, etc...are all impressing me very much.  We all have those 'special' discs that show off these things (Roger Waters Amused to Death SACD and many others)...I've not heard these discs played back quite like this before and am very happy with the result.

These are frankly fantastic to me an a LOT of FUN!!!  To me, this is what this 'sport' is about,....the sheer enjoyment of listening to all the different types of music.  All this without thinking about what a reasonable price point all-in these are available for...that as they say is bonus in all of this and Legacy delivers tremendous enjoyment and ROI.  

Happy New Year!

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see you got new speakers.  Congrats!  How does it compare to your old TAD?  Also, with the active sub, your bass should be better.   Let me know your opinion and feedback.  Thanks!

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Merry Christmas fellow audio-nuts!!!

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Using EdenSound TerraCone custom footers between the Legacy Calibre XD and Foundation cabinets.  These provide a very noticeable improvement in overall system articulation, image size and location of each instrument and voice.  The extra one inch or more of vertical spacing introducing is clearly also adding to the mix in term of soundstage overall size....very happy with these upgrades.  Dan puts out some amazing value and customer service!

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Thank you Lak!

Doug: Thank you! This also works if you can afford something much bigger but just don't want the hassle of a 300-400+ lb speaker!

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Phenomenal new idea; this is a radical take on the sub/bookshelf idea. Nice extreme setup in a more manageable package. This gives hope to people who can't afford a flagship massive floor staining speaker.

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:-)

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I've been off the forums for quite a few days not because I had nothing to write but because I've been having so much fun listening while working and when not working and had a new set of speakers burning in 24 hours per day that have really been quite amazing and very musical from the first couple of hours.


I listened to a lot of speakers and researched many others this year.   In late summer I went to Atlanta where Bill Dudleston was showing off his SOTA Reference speaker ($80K) the "VALOR" which utilizes many unique and revolutionary design concepts and drivers that are all his proprietary designs together with Wavelet, which can be used as a DAC (Apodizing), Linestage Preamp and DSP-ed full roomEQ. Furthermore, VALOR makes use of Bill's new "stereo unfold" technology which you have to hear to believe what it does for soundstaging and imaging. This was Sunday afternoon meeting of the Atlanta Audio & Video Society which is a great group if you are ever able to attend one of their events.


Also in the room was the Legacy Caliber "XD" model. As an aside, the Caliber productions models come in 2 flavors;


- Caliber: passive speaker, required a full range stereo or monoblocks to drive it. Tweeter, midrange and small woofer,....specs are amazing and the speaker is incredibly well built, not your typical 20-30lb monitor speaker...


- Caliber XD: hybrid with a woofer, midrange and tweeter and Dudleston's own ICE amplifier design, can be run fully active where the speaker is driven by its own internal amp or hybrid where the bass and mid-bass are run active and an external amp drives the midrange and tweeter. This mode utilizes Wavelet for RoomEQ and other benefits...


A note on the room...old Marriott with possibly THE worst sounding and hard to contend with meeting rooms and ballrooms you have ever heard. Power was terrible as well.


The VALOR being what they are were outstanding and with Wavelet and Stereo Unfold conquered that terribly room and filled with great audiophile-grade sound, imaging and yet were very musical.


External amplification was a surprise....$1800 Legacy Powerbloc2, a new stereo amp from Dudleston with his standalone ICE amplifier designs running a full-range 2-channel output. The amp was so damned good it caused me to reevaluate briefly all $20K and above amp designs I had ever made. Being objective however, there is a practical limit with any digital amp design where things get a bit grainy when you push them to concert hall levels but it was a long time before any flaw in that great cost-effective amp showed.


The surprise for everyone in the room including me beyond the comments the 2-channel Powerbloc2 amps elicited was when Bill switched over to the CaliberXD run fully active, no external amp using a CD player and/or computer audio streamed into the Wavelet. Bear in mind the Caliber XDs and a Wavelet weigh in at under $10K...


The Caliber XDs I believe are about 62 lbs each; picking them up you found a very formidable speaker whose weight and density was a surprise. You could break a knuckle tapping these if you were not careful.


As an aside, Caliber XDs carry on the history of fatigue-free, very musical speakers that Bill at Legacy is known for designing...


Everyone in the room was amazed at how the CaliberXDs run with internal amplification only and mid-level cables and CD player positively filled the room with impressive sound, accurate imaging and musical playback. Engaging/Disengaging Wavelet's RoomEQ on the fly for both CaliberXD and VALOR made that device's amazing effects readily apparent as to how it battled and won over the room's problems. When all was said and done, more than half of the 50+ people in attendance were making comments as to how they were astounded at what this stand-mounted speaker and Wavelet could do at a price that few other high-end vendors would ever offer.


Anyone needing a cost-effective speaker that while not inexpensive does not break the bank that is capable and delivers MUCH more than you would think should not buy anything before they hear or try the CaliberXD with Wavelet. 


Long-story short, after this experience in Atlanta, I traveled to Legacy twice to hear the VALOR, a custom version of Whisper XDS which I initially favored and planned to order and the Caliber XD. Over a period of 4 solid days (2 trips) I put all these through their paces after trip #1, was excited that Whisper XDS with Wavelet and some custom mods would be my next speaker.


Trip#2 changed that as I thought about the size/stature of Whisper XDS the needs for dual large subs if I wanted full range back (I did) and how they did not fit into my original plans.


For 2-3 weeks, I communicated back and forth with Bill and posed a question as to how we could utilize Caliber XD, extend it and couple it with subs to make a modular full-range separated-cabinet speaker that would allow for monitor-only, monitor-plus-bass/sub cabinets and ability to also add a 3rd decoupled cabinet just for mid-bass and midrange specialization in the future.


His answer was 'Caliber XD Custom' for me which adds the following to Caliber XD;


- an extra woofer so 2 in place of the default 1, 1 each side-firing left and 1 right

- a large passive radiator on top

- DUAL 750w ICE amps internally

- DUAL XLR inputs

- a redesigned back plate with dual speaker binding posts to the tweeter section only 

- a pair of Legacy FOUNDATION subs (to my hearing these rival REL G25 MK2s and JL Audio 212 and Gotham); 1000W of ICE amplification in each FOUNDATION

- new Wavelet algorithm sets to allow Wavelet to drive every driver set individually and treat the woofers in the Calibers as woofers or mid-woofers depending upon whether the Caliber XD "Custom" was utilized by itself or in unison with the FOUNDATIONs

- all 8 outputs on the Wavelet live to accomplish this, only one external amp needed to drive the tweeter section

- new Wavelet algorithms for 'steering' taken from Bill's wealth of experience in the pro-audio world together with Wavelet's Time and Frequency RoomEQ algorithms...

- ability to add Stereo Unfold algos to this setup based upon lessons learned from VALOR design, to be added in the future...

- the customized Calibers weigh in at about 80lbs each...

- result: 96db efficient speaker setup, 16Hz-30kHz FLAT in-room with bass on pipe organ and synth popping out well below that; I HAVE to get our REW and measure...

- Using thick sorbothane pucks for now to perch and isolate the Calibers on top of the foundations and an Adona shelf under each FOUNDATION to couple this stack to the floor and yet allow the massive passive radiator on bottom of each bass cabinet the room to do its job and breath freely...


*This was one huge experiment and there were many refinements on the overall design, driver complement, algorithms, etc...but in the end the last week has been nothing short of eye-opening. I believe that I have much more 'speaker' here than even I thought I would have at the beginning. I've been off the boards as this is one of the most fun and musical speaker setups that I've ever had, bar none and I keep finding myself getting off the computer and back in front of an around the speakers!


They have about 265 hours on them as of now; imaging, soundstaging, musical playback and realism are all up there with the best I've heard. Friends have already stopped by including one well-known power cable, interconnect and speaker cable designer who lives about an hour from here; all have been amazed at the overall result of this chance taken that resulted in one hell of a unique set of speakers.


More later and pictures below..when you consider that price of the setup retail even with the custom adds to the Caliber XDs, the Wavelet extra work and 16-layer black pearl piano-grade finish all-in is only $24K for the entire setup, it's even more amazing.

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I've just about had it with silence in the room after the R1s departed to a good friend's place, powered down components and speaker cables protruding from amps with nothing to connect to! Apologies for the bastardized quote but it's a favorite and resistance is futile....

By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. Then rang the bells both loud and deep. Audio obsession is not dead nor doth it sleep!

Fun for a Saturday morning...could not resist! :-)

Only have to wait 3 more weeks....Aargh!

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Long overdue update to the system components list above and a couple of new photos; some older photos still remain showing Isotek equipment which has now moved up and is replaced with SHUNYATA TRITON v3 and TYPHON QR which deliver a musical playback experience unlike anything I've heard from this system yet!

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scar972: Thank you very much and apologies for a delayed reply; I've been off the forum for quite a while due to other things that have pulled time and lessened audio (hate it when that happens!).

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Hi Zephyr,

What a terrific system, congrats!
I love those TAD speakers, only had a chance to hear them in show settings driven by VTL amps and it was a memorable experience.
 

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Arnie,...thank you and happy listening!!!

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HI Zephyr,
You are most welcome.

If you have any questions at all about bi-amping please feel free to contact me. I am happy to help.

Arnie

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Thank you for the feedback and great advice! I would also that no matter how good the respective choices of amps in a 'hybrid' config that temporal coherence would always suffer to some degree simply because the amps have different sonic characteristics as you point out and circuit paths, etc...when one gets down to the minute details. This is probably a config I would just to hear it but would not standardize on in the final analysis!  It's great to hear from you; it's been a while since we chatted,...hope all is well with you!

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Hi Zephyr,

If you do try real bi amping, it is best to keep the amplifiers identical and not to mix tubes for the top end and solid state for the bass. I hear this suggestion alot, but I do believe based on my own experience and from speaking with others who have done active bi amping, keep everything the same for the best sonic results. The amps will have different gain and sonic characteristics. Also keep all of you IC's, power cords, etc identical with the extra set of amps. 

I have done both all tube biamping using 2 sets of VTL Siegfried Series 2 amps and now all solid state biamping using CH Precision M1 amps. Both are wonderful to use. One of the advantages of doing active biamping with either the Siegfried amps or the M1 amps is that they both have adjustable global feedback settings. This allows you to raise the feedback on the bass amps for better overall speaker control without sacrificing any of the ease and  liquidity of the mids and  highs. Until you have heard amps that can do this in a true active biamp setup you don't realize the sonic advantages of doing this.  

Do your speakers have an external crossover for doing this?

Feel free to contact me if you want to discuss this further.

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Giving some serious thought to taking in some SOTA tube gear (amplifiers & preamplifier) in and try an entirely new presentation to feed the R1s...could be very interesting and I'm getting psyched up just at the thought of it :-) !!!

As the R1s can be bi-amped, another variant I would try for which I've received advice in the past is great tubes on the top-end and great solid state for the bass....interested in anyone's thoughts on both pure-tube and the mixed amp scenario.

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Revised system photos and some descriptions modified or added....

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