Description

Many updates in the past year and a half that have upleveled the system playback and musical realism of the system substantially (January 2022)

Many system configurations have come and gone since the 1970s growing up.  

My first exposure to RTR Tape and Vinyl as well as playing music was with my father who had a local jazz swing band, played trumpet & piano and arranged music. He taught me the love of playing and listening to great music, how important it was in life and so much more.  I also spent many years from age 4, until my late 20s playing jazz, swing, classical, wind ensemble and drum corp.

Many thanks to the countless people I have spoken with, read posts from, interacted with and learned much from over the years. The system has attained a state of organic and natural qualities and pure enjoyment of music that I have sought for a very long time!!!

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Room Details

Dimensions: 17’ × 14’  Medium
Ceiling: 8’


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    • Overall Photos System Views....
    Various photos of the system from a distance...
    • Overall cable layout Elrod and Shunyata SOTA cables...
    Various photos of the cable management method and layout...
    • Legacy Audio VALOR
    Valor is an amazing speaker and these are built such that I need 4-channels of external amps to drive midrange & mid-bass via one set of binding posts and treble via a separate pair of binding posts for ultimate flexibility and resolving power.

    I had heard these many times since their introduction and since; my dream of owning them has finally come true!
    • Legacy Audio Wavelet V2
    The new Legacy V2 Wavelet platform with updated VALOR speaker Wavelet algorithms including Room Correction and active 4-way crossover and the latest Legacy-Boehmer "Stereo Unfold Technology" (SUT) which is groundbreaking sound!
    • Townshend Audio Seismic Isolation Podiums
    Custom size & weight configuration for Legacy Valor collaboration with Townshend Audio.  The results far exceeded even the highest expectations that I had.
    • Esoteric Audio Master SoundWorks C-02X Preamplifier
    An amazing SOTA dual-mono preamp containing technology and know-how derived from the development of the Grandioso C1 preamp...
    • Esoteric Audio S-02 Master SoundWorks Stereo Amplifier (2)
    A beautifully built and sounding stereo amplifier based upon the Grandioso S1 and identical build to it except for the Grandioso case work and binding posts.
    • Esoteric Audio Grandioso P1 Transport and Power Unit
    Grandioso P1 and PSU power chassis, a 2-channel SOTA transport
    • Esoteric Audio Grandioso D1 Dual Monoblock DACs
    Dual-mono separate chassis SOTA DAC implementatkon
    • Cybershaft OCXO (Type-2 curated) Premium Ltd V2 10 MHz Masterclock
    The best clock of any kind I've had in my system including many worthwhile contenders.  This 10 MHz master clock has the lowest phase noise, lowest effective jitter and most profound effect on sound quality of any out there!
    • Legacy Audio i.V4 ULTRA 4-ch amp
    The best amplifier to ever come out of Legacy and rivaled much more expensive and vaunted amps that I have owned and many more that I have heard!  Wonderful amplifier, sounds as good as the finest Class A/B solid state I've ever owned and many that I've heard!
    • Shunyata Research TRITON v3 (with Chassis Ground plane)
    An outstanding power conditioner on its own. When coupled with the TYPHON QR it propels the system forward in terms of ultra quiet black backgrounds and detail plus musicality in ways I've never heard before.  I use this with Shunyata Delta and Alpha level chassis ground cables with great results!
    • Shunyata Research TYPHON QR
    This system-level upgrade-delivering component from Shunyata has caused refinement and musicality in my system that I find difficult to describe in words.
    The system just sounds like MUSIC!!! 
    • Avatar Acoustics AfterBurner8 Duplex Outlets...
    The Avatar AfterBurner8 are back in the system,...pure copper and brass with minimal coating to prevent corrosion is the way to go!
    • Adona Corporation AV45CS4 AV45CS2 and AV45CS1 Audio Racks
    Provides full-range isolation and vibration control as well as rock-solid structural support for the heaviest of high-end components...
    • Composite Audio CF-2010 Platforms (7)
    Wonderful and reasonably priced refinement to all the attributes of the Adona rack system,...I have yet to find any situation or external effect impacting sound quality after adding these platforms
    • Harmonic Resolution Systems DPX Damping Plates (16)
    Reported to pull in and dissipate airborne and chassis vibrations from all types of components...
    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Gold Speaker Cables 9-foot (2 pair)
    Pair #1 is full-range, and utilized to drive Valor's mid-bass and midrange

    Pair #2 is custom built and optimized for upper frequency playback.
    • Elrod Power Systems Master Series Diamond XLR 2-meter (1 pair)
    Outrageously good interconnect!
    • Elrod Power Systems Master Series Statement Gold Y-Cable (custom)
    An incredible bespoke Y-Cable pair built beyond any quality measure I could imagine. Sonically amazing and imparts great musicality, dynamics and tonality to the midrange and Legacy Valor SUT Array's impact and sound quality.
    • Elrod Power Systems Diamond XLR Interconnects 6-foot (1 pair)
    A fantastic analog XLR interconnect!
    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Gold XLR 13ft (1 pair) and 6ft (2 pair)
    Amazing Elrod Statement Gold XLR Analog interconnects!!!
    • Shunyata Research OMEGA CLOCK-50 50-ohm BNC:BNC 1.5-meter (2)
    All OMEGA digital cables beat the seemingly unbeatable SIGMA V2 digital cables and deliver additional perfection in sonics and musical results!
    • Tubulus CONCENTUS HDMI 1.5 meter
    Outstanding HDMI cables optimized for use with high-speed data protocols using by the Esoteric Grandioso P1 and dual D1 stack....
    • Shunyata Research Anaconda Zitron XLR (with KPIP process) 6-meter
    A tremendous long-run, super quiet, extremely quiet analog XLR!!!
    • Elrod Power Systems Masters Series Diamond 10-foot 15-amp (2) and 20-amp (1)
    Great SOTA power cords.....
    • Elrod Power Systems Masters Series Statement Gold 3-meter 15-amp (2)
    New smaller main center section and longer flexible ends; equal in performance to the original Master Series but much more easily placed and positioned in an audio system!
    • Elrod Power Systems Masters Series Statement Gold Power Cords 15-amp (4)

    Fantastic power cords,...

    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Gold 15-amp 6-foot PC (1)
    State of the art in terms of the energy, dynamics and musicality that it brought to my system when used to power all my 15-amp equipment!
    • Shunyata Research OMEGA QR-s 15-amp
    A true SOTA power cable tailor-made to connect any critical source directly to the wall including having its own noise-filtering and suppression in the cable; used to power the critical HDPLEX 300-watt LPSU for my Legacy Wavelet...
    • HDPLEX 300 Watt Quad-Rail LPSU (LT3045-enabled)
    An outstanding multi-output DC Linear Regulated Power Supply to drive the Legacy Wavelet
    • Revelation Audio Labs 'Passage' CryoSilver Reference XLR3-to-XLR5 DC Umbilical (Custom)
    This is my 2nd setup to utilize this amazing DC Umbilical. It's so good I returned to it and ordered another one custom made after selling my original one together with a Legacy AERIS/Wavelet/HDPlex combination several years ago.
    • Music Collection Many Genres CD XRCD/2/24/K2/DXD/UltraHD SACD
    I love music, all kinds, shapes, colors and types; this is an extensive collection of music in many genres and formats from pipe organ, classical, jazz, all the way to hard rock, electronica/techno and everything in between. 

    Formats: CD XRCD, XRCD2, XRCD24, K2HD, DXD, UltraHD, SACD
    • PRIOR 2-channel: Legacy Audio CaliberXD, Foundation, Wavelet, Esoteric, Cybershaft, Elrod, Shunyata
    Legacy Audio CaliberXD, Foundation, Wavelet, Esoteric A-02, Esoteric P-02, D-02, Cybershaft OP21A, Shunyata Triton V3, TYPHON QR, etc....
    • PRIOR 2-channel: TAD R1 MK2s, Esoteric, Cybershaft, Elrod, Isotek
    Loved this system in many ways, lasted about 2 years,....many things evolved during this time, power cords, interconnects, power conditioning, speaker cables, my overall listening tastes and a distinct missing/longing for the extremely musical experience of Legacy Audio speakers, active room correction, etc... Don't get me wrong, the TAD R1 MK2s are within their stated range as perfect a speaker as I've heard in many aspects but the bottom octave rolling off halfway up and the bottom half octave rolling off even more plus my preference for the Legacy AMT tweeter and super-tweeter sound led me back in very short order!
    • PRIOR 2-channel: with Legacy Audio Aeris, WAVELET Esoteric, Cybershaft, Shunyata & HDPlex
    I love this setup and will be sad to see the AERIS and all of its active-speaker benefits with great RoomEQ by the WAVELET and HDPlex Custom PSU leave my system.  This has impressed all who have heard it and me daily for the past 1-2 years. Truly Amazing!!!
    • PRIOR 2-ch with Legacy FocusSE
    Prior to the arrival of the AERIS statement reference speakers, this was the configuration of the system. I will miss the FocusSEs from the point of view they gave me several great years of listening and produced far more than their price point would have indicated. A great speaker in a great sounding setup!
    • PRIOR 2-channel: Legacy Focus HDs biamped...
    The system has evolved and been refined many levels over how it sounds quite a few years ago. Prior generations centered around high-end Tara, AQ and Shunyata with Classe pre-amplification and dual NL 12.1 amps in a vertical bi-amp configuration.
    • PRIOR 7.1 HT & 2-channel: All Legacy Audio
    This is the system configuration many years ago when I attempted to go all out for 7.1 HT and 2-channel all rolled into one system. The impact, musicality and overall enjoyment factor on the HT portion of the system based upon custom-built Edge amplification, Classe HT surround-proc, 2-channel pre-amp, multiple pairs of Legacy speakers in all positions plus a REL B1 subwoofer with Velodyne processor was off the charts however the 2-channel never attained what I have always hoped for in my primary system. It took about 2 years to reach the decision but several years ago I decided to focus on 2-channel listening and have not looked back ever since.

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@bullot 
Shane,

Thank you for the post with great comments; it's great to hear from you.  We should hookup via email or phone sometime and catch up on life, audio, etc...

I hope that work, life and all is treating you well!

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Hey there Mark!  Holy Elrod!!  😂. I haven’t looked at your system in maybe 2 years!  Wow lots of changes!  Looks great and sounds fab I’m sure!  I’ve always loved the Elrod look, beautiful.  Seems to be some Elrod availability on the market these days…..might have to try one again!  Hope you and yours are all well.  Wow was thinking I first chatted with you back in the Edge days!!  Things have come a long way!  All the best.

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It's been a few years for sure,...3-5 sounds about right.

Thank you again for the comments here.  It's great to hear from you.

If you have half a day or more to get up to Greenville in the fall let me know and you are welcome for a listen.

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@zephyr24069 

Thanks , Yea, I’ve really upgraded and happy on the sq I’m getting , now 
We talked 3-5 years ago ? 
Anyway thanks for feedback 

Even though it is the lower high end , I’m enjoying immensely.
The turntable add is pretty spectacular at its price point .

I’ve listened to all your valor and amps at Doug’s over the last year or so 
Another buddy has Whispers and all tube setup with dual subs , so I’m familiar with your  sq !!!!

Not bad 

Ps: I’ll be in Columbia this fall for southern 500 in darlington ( one of my punch list to do items )

Jeff 

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Thank you Jeff, it's great to hear from you!  The Valor speakers are definitely substantial (severe understatement), even more so with the new upgraded Wavelet II.  The way these larger drivers convey sound is in a word, effortlessly and I've yet to find their limit of where the speaker stops being musical, where it would sound brash, etc... I received these in early June 2020 and I am, no exaggeration, learning what they can do more and more on what seems to be a weekly basis!

The new i.V4 Ultra amp, also installed here about 1 month before the Valors back in 2020 continues to defy my old biases regarding the need for big powerhouse Class A, A/B amps that weigh well over 100 pound in order to have big, dynamic, and expansive sound.  When you take into consider the price of 4 channels was at the time $8250 in "Ultra" configuration, it still baffles me how good it sounds.  Again, no exaggeration however I will stop there so I don't start into the magic audiophile words zone :-)

The TAD R1 Mk2's were and are a great speaker. The best part is I was lucky enough to sell them a very good friend in Atlanta so I've already heard them once since they left here and I'm looking forward to additional listening sessions as he's been very busy with additional upgrades and should have a set of DarTZeel 468s and the matching new generation preamp in the near future so I'm looking forward to hearing how they sound with the DarT's compared to his Accuphase A-200 monos and matching pre (which is already excellent).

Hope all is well with you and you are enjoying your system and alot of great music!

If you are ever in the area, you are always welcome to have a listen.

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Zephyr24069

Lots of changes 
How do you like new ultra amp?
The valors are pretty substantial, big drivers yield big sound !
How did you end up with esoteric for your front end ?
They make great stuff, but are not pushed much by media 

Big change from TAD 

Jeff

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Thank you @jond !

It takes the same number of people (two) that would be required change footers and not a lot more in terms of process.

That is certainly "the" question when it comes to anything like this for a speaker of this size. The initial install, as with installing footers
of any other kind and moving a good sized speaker like this, was a two-person job and some careful thought. The essential ingredient was
to know exactly where the speakers sound best in the room both playing as passive speakers and also with the Room Correction that
Legacy Wavelet provides (which does NOT get you out of the task of doing proper passive speaker "best location" placement). After almost
2 years and a lot of experimentation I had found the best place for the speakers in the current room so step 1 was to precisely mark the outside
edge (outline) of the speaker base on the floor so I knew exactly where the speaker needed to be sighted in to coincide with once on the podiums.

Step 2, with 2 guys working together was to have 1 of us rock the speaker gently back on its back 2 legs while the other carefully slide the Townshend podium into place all the way up to the back speaker footers. Step 3 was then both of us "walking" the speaker and getting it centered on the platform and squared off. Step 4 was one person hold the speaker while the other got down on the floor and pushed the Townshend platforms back and sliding them into their near-final place with some "sighting in" and verifying with (Step 5) a couple of minor adjustments to get the speaker and podium to align the speaker over the blue masking tape targets on the floor on all sides. Step 6 then is adjusting the isolation pods (the legs) in pairs to make sure the podium is floating no more than an inch above the floor and even on all sides to get it level to the human eye. Step 7 is taking good "calibrated/verified" level and checking the speaker on all sides front and back to ensure it is completely level and 100% vertically aligned straight as well.

Moving the speakers on the podiums themselves was the same "walking" motion and process due to the extremely thick and hard blasted finish they manufacture.

Sliding the podiums themselves on a smooth surface takes some care and even force on 2 legs at a time; someone to steady the speaker vertically helps however I did do it myself a few days ago as there was a slight distance away from the target markings where is missed. I was able to get push the podiums myself with a bit of care. It would have been better or at least less disconcerting to have a helper but I figured it out on my own.

They tell me that on carpet the podiums with their slick disc footers on the legs will move; I see that as requiring more care, a bit more force and definitely not done without a second person as carpet is more challenging to contend with. They did tell me they have many customers who use them on carpet so they can surely advise as to best techniques.

Hope this answers your question...

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zephyr thanks for the very kind offer it's been years since I've been to SC but if I am ever there again I'll look you up. And congrats on your new upgrades the only question I have is how many people does it take to get a podium under a 300lb speaker??!!

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Just completed a major upgrade in terms of totally decoupling an almost 300 lb speaker that stands 6 feet 1 inch tall from the room to eliminate the prodigious amounts of energy this speaker can produce from feeding into the floor and subfloor (and crawlspace under house) and ultimately feeding back into the speaker.  This delivered a lot more than even the highest expectations I had.  I'd researched available options for over a year and even considered going back to the use of Stillpoint Ultras 5's (now v2) or other footers like Magico MPODs (sized for M6 speakers) or the larger IsoAcoustics footers and received a great recommendation from a friend to look at Townshend Audio from the UK.

 

Townshend Audio custom podium journey….began this design project back in January after several months last year of investigation into many other excellent products in this space from HiFiStays, Magico MPODS, IsoAcoustics and many others.

 

I decided upon Townshend after quite a few conversations with other “big speaker owners” who had bought and used all other top offerings for high-end footers with the larger speakers models from YG Acoustics, Wilson, Magico and also Legacy Whisper XDS and MBL 101e MkII and MBL Extreme owners.  They all wound up with Townshend’s podiums as their preferred solution, some after spending many thousands more on competing solutions.

 

Townshend makes 5 different standard sizes of the platforms for different combinations of size plinth and weight-bearing capacity from 50kg up to 200kg.  They can accommodate any speaker over 200kg of any weight through a custom design and going from 4 to 6 load cells.

 

Due to the unique angled back profile, the size of the Legacy Valor plinth, a 298-pound actual weight of my speakers as-built and the height (6 feet 1")

plus their load distribution a custom sized Townshend product was needed.  The same is true of the other Wilson, larger Magico, MBL and YG owners

I spoke with.  The process of collaborating with Townshend was great and they were extremely responsive at all points even allowing me first hand calls and emails with their lead engineer to arrive at the CAD drawings needed to commission the project.   As a result, they now have an option for any Legacy VALOR owner in their design portfolio.

 

Townshend completed the order after commit in the shortest time possible (about 5-6 weeks) and then shipped them in custom-built real wood crates. They arrived without any issue whatsoever.

 

The finish quality is heavy duty, beautiful and first class in every way.  I am very happy with the end product.  This project was measured and designed down to millimeters to facilitate the CAD and laser-cutting processes.  When I got them out of the crates, they were exactly to promise and to measure.

 

Pardon the blue masking tape in the photos...I am still tweaking final speaker position based upon original best-position.

 

The playback quality of the speakers once installed on them far exceeds any expectations I had, and have markedly improved every single aspect of playback, including bass of course, all the way up through midrange and treble clarity, total imaging, soundstage depth, density, 3D rendering, etc..

 

It's also an amazing thing to see an almost 300 lb, 6' 1" speaker "float" and when pushed, easily move in 3 dimensions, and quickly absorb the shocks and return to stationary in a matter of seconds.  The bigger surprise is to feel absolutely zero vibration and resonance in the floor directly in front of the speaker and yet feel the force of bass, mid-bass, etc...moving air.

 

Very happy with the results and looking forward to listening to a lot more music to re-explore my speakers! 

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After many months of looking for options to find a destination HDMI cable made with a pure focus on the needs of high-speed audio data-only protocols like ES-LINK2, ES-LINK3, 4 and 5 by Esoteric, I've upgraded to a handmade bespoke cable design by Aldwin at TUBULUS cables in the Netherlands ("CONCENTUS" model).   Outstanding results....the Audioquest Firebird 48 HDMI's were and are a great cable. I do find that last bit of refinement in all categories is delivered, at least in this system, by the Tubulus CONCENTUS cable choice...

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Thank you @jond ! I very much appreciate the comments!  I've had other more typical "big bad solid state amps" over the years like the Edge NL12.1's, Esoteric A-02, etc..and loved them.  This Legacy i.V4 Ultra amp really gets the job done and for 4 channels covering mids and treble separately, uniformly with the built-in amplification in the Valor speakers and at a price that I still some days cannot fathom how reasonable it is.  I may try other amps in the future like Esoteric S1X if they ever bring that out (don't have room for 4 M1X's :-) ) however any amps that enter the system now have a VERY high bar to jump.  In short, this amp allows me to have the unified system build view you called out for the speaker side, while sticking a long-time favorite (Esoteric) for the source side.

Thank you once again,...if you are ever near Greenville SC, you are welcome to visit and to enjoy a system that I think makes very realistic and enjoyable music across all genres (and I like alot of different kind of music).  

I'll be updating with a couple new photos a bit later; about a week ago I finally concluded on an install of what turned out to be a much bigger upgrade in terms of return on investment than I thought it would be.  That namely is the update to custom-made (size and weight-bearing config) TOWNSHEND AUDIO PODIUMs....

More on that later....thank you again!

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Wow zephyr how have I never seen this system before? Those Valor's look well valorous? ;) I'm sure they sound spectacular and talk about a system approach Legacy all the way back end and Esoteric all the way front end. And the most exquisite cable management I've ever laid eyes on very well done all the way around!

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Thank you!!! Very soon!

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Wow.  Congrats, Zephy -- and I cannot wait to wrap my ears around these developments!

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Great new additions in the cable area with ELROD Masters Series cables and Shunyata OMEGA in 2021 as well as ELROD Masters Series cables.  The biggest upgrades came after long searches and listening comparisons the last 3 years; added Esoteric C-02X preamplifier and the Grandioso P1 and D1 stack,...the effects of which are immediately obvious from the first minutes of play as output by the VALOR speakes which I've had now for over 1.5 years and am still discovering more that they can do...

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All new photos of reorganized system layout with particular attention to cable layout, organization and optimization including even more isolation.  I started with a goal of organizing and making better use of space and wound up with a definite audible benefit, much more than expected.  Even more clear and layered instrument, voice and ensemble location accuracy within the soundstage.  Hope you'll enjoy the new photos!

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@cymbop Thank you very much,...I appreciate them very much and I'm glad you enjoyed music on the system as much as I do.  Thanks for sharing time and some great music!

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Zeph!  Thanks for the listening and the fellowship last night.  All I can say is that I have never heard a system do as many amazing things, and that includes 4 trips to RMAF.  

The top end is hair-raising with air and ambience.  My ears could follow studio reverb tails to clear to the end of time....  The bottom end is shocking in its power and precision.  Your valors pressurize the room (when called for) without muddying anything in the midrange or higher.

And the imaging is unlike anything I've heard from solid-state.  Left-to-right is spot-on, but the font-to-back palpability of the soundstage is the real coup you pulled off.  Image stability never collapses even when a passage gets very loud or complicated.  What's more, images that are supposed to be small are presented as small, which is a feat for big speakers.  And images that are supposed to be big....  Well, they're enormous. 

This system is an achievement.  A benchmark.  A reference.  The state of our art.  Thanks again for the communion, mon frere.

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It's not a plague though it is serious and life, work, education, fellowship must go on with care.  You ("Y'all") are welcome any time and proper precautions are being followed.

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When's this damn plague gonna end so I can hear those beautiful Valors?

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Awesome systems ! I'll bet they sound as good as they look !  Absolutely gorgeous !!

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@cutlr7 Thanks for the great conversation yesterday; I definitely enjoy hooking up with music and HT lovers and talking speakers, systems, etc....it was cool to hear all the Legacy models we've both owned and have in common and hear about your experiences with them as well;the AERIS are a great speaker as you know by owning them,....if you have a chance to get up to Valor though, Go For It!!!

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@cutlr7  Apologies for the delay in replying, I've not spent a lot of time on Audiogon lately and it does not notify/alert via email most times there is a post on my system thread. I am hoping that you see this.

The Valor have not stopped amazing me in terms of their ability to deftly play the most delicate of passages, violin, cello, flute, percussion instruments of a fine nature up through the most dynamic ensemble works of pipe organ, symphony orchestras with incredible presence, imaging well beyond the speaker and room boundaries all equally well. How a 300lb speaker disappears like this and simply leaves music in all three dimensions hanging in the air, enveloping the listener is beyond me.  The softest passage you can imagine to the loudest and most intensely conveyed music all done with a finesse and beauty that I find hard to put into words.  Sounds like happy ears right? It's not, that I can promise you.   I find they have the resolving power for individual instruments and voices while also being able to convey the power and beauty of a large ensemble AND without losing the individual instruments and voices when playing large complex works.

They show you a scale of musical playback that you've not heard before and with the Room Correction and Stereo Unfold Array with a presence and a realism that is hard to describe.

Range,....12 Hz all the way up with an accuracy in the bass and sub-bass that I've not heard before.  Midrange,...there is nothing I've heard that renders mids like this 14" driver at the heart of the concentric mid & treble concentric driver array.

DEEP Bass, body impacting yet smooth, fast, articulate, accurate,...I could go on and on.  I will NOT ever need subs with these, that is for sure as they have their own 4-pack of subs, two per tower!

Oh, and they rock out too,  will I'm sure amaze you in a Home Theater & 2ch hybrid setup.

I listen to everything from Pipe Organ, Classical, Jazz and New Agee to Hard Rock, Prog-Rock, Heavy Metal, Techno and Electronica. There is nothing I've tried out of a huge collection that did not drop my jaw in amazement.

I am truly glad I have these; it's the speaker I've waited to find and be able to have in my system. I went to Munich HIGH-END and Hifideluxe in 2019, both shows, 4 full days, hundreds of speakers......a veritable who's who in high end audio.

The only speakers I heard that i would put in the same league as the Valor started around $250K-$3000K and went to $500K and beyond.  That list was also very short, probably 5-6 names. 

At any rate, if you have a chance to get these, I highly recommend them.

At Legacy's retail prices you'd be crazy not to (IMHO).

If you are at Scott's a good friend's Valors in Rosewood finish for sale here at a killer price, you'll be even happier with the speaker and also be getting a great deal from a guy you can trust all day long.  

I would calmly say that Valor is a 'destination' purchase. Only way to improve on it is power cable, interconnect and speaker cable choices.

Write me here on the message Inbox. I'm happy to get on the phone and give very specific examples of what I've heard on many different types of music, what I've compared it to and heard over the years and why I think this speaker is the best reference speaker purchase in all audio though i am biased by my own listening preferences.

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Updated with 14 GSM Eco professional canvas art and a nice fractal-generated pattern,...the art looks great to me and sonically is a great improvement,...much more attractive than normal room treatments and just a small amount of diffusion on the backplane/wall...

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Hi Zephyr, 

I had a couple questions about your system....I have been through some of the same speakers that you have....Focus 20/20>Focus SE>Aeris....I have an opportunity to get a set of Valors and wanted to get your feedback on what you have heard since upgrading? Do you feel the juice is worth the squeeze as it is said. I too have a Wavelet with the HD PLEX LPS...made a huge difference! One difference I have is that my Aeris are integrated into a home theater system so I would be putting the Valors in the same place....Bill said no issues so I am not worried. With that said, I would love to get another end user's feedback who recently upgraded.  

All the best,
Jason

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