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my system is so much better than i ever dreamed when i started this journey about 30 years ago.never did i think i would be possible to achieve the sound, i currently hear, in my listening room.My amps are superb...the speakers are amazing...the network player sounds better than the SACD player that preceeded it.I have 2 Silent Source 'Music Reference' power cords.My new Silversmith 'Fidelium' speaker cables are truly amazing.The addition of the Uptown Audio 'EtheREGEN has significantly improved the sound.The addition of the Salon ethernet  cable has improved the sonics.I changed my previous modem/router setup to a single Actiontec product.Have just added 2 REL 212 SE subwoofers. The addition has significantly improved the soundstage and midrange....as well as the bass.I have recently replaced the Symposium Platforms that were under my speakers..Tidal and RELs, with AV RoomServive EVP HDR isolation devices that have significantly improved the sound.Upgrading my Lumin to X1 level was a great idea.....Have replaced the Psvane WE 300B tubes with Psvane ACME 300B tubes.My 845s are Psvane WEs.Have also added a LessLoss Entropic C-MARC power cord to my Lumin X1.Have also added a LessLoss C-MARC RCA interconnect..Stay tuned..
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Room Details

Dimensions: 28’ × 18’  Large
Ceiling: 26’


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    • Chalice Audio SET amplifier Grail
    50 watt SET...Psvane WE 845 x 4...Elrog 300B x 2
    • LUMIN X1 Network Music Player
    Music Player /DAC
    • Tidal Audio Contriva Diacera-SE speakers
    full range
    • REL 212 SE subwoofer x 2
    • Silversmith Audio Fidelium speaker cables
    Ribbon cables
    • Lessloss C-Marc RCA interconnects
    2m RCA interconnect pair
    • Silent Source Audio Cables 'The Music Reference' Power Cord x 2
    • LessLoss Entropic C-MARC Powercord
    2m.....on my Lumin S1
    • UpTone Audio EtherREGEN
    Digital ethernet filter
    • Keces P3 PSU
    • Sablon Audio 1m Ethernet cable
    superb cable
    • Oyaide cryo wall outlets 'XXX' and R1
    Oyaide cryo wall outlets x 2..model 'xxx' and R1
    • Core Furniture diffusers...wall...x 4
    wooden diffusers used behind speakers x 2 each side on the front wall
    • Stillpoint Ultra SS
    under my amps
    • Wireworld 'Platinum' Ethernet cable
    • AV Roomservice EVP HDR isolation devices...#6 of the 2" and #16 of the EVP HDR 4" devices
    absolutely great isolation devices that work as advertised and then some. I replaced 5 Symposium Platforms with them..

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knollbrent..i see you have Piegas'...i had the P-8..P-10s and the C-40s along the way..great speakers..their new model is amazing too..dave

calloway

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knollbrent...thanks a lot..If you are ever in the Va/NC area ...please look me up. would love to have you over..dave

calloway

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Andrew..they don't currently but i would be willing to bet that if you asked Tom Willman about that he might be willing to talk about doing that...for a price...It would be as great as the Grails are..no doubt..dave

calloway

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Andrew..no plans at the minute.I did get the Nordost 'Sort Kones' and put them under the Lumin player which did make an audible improvement. We would love to have you and your wife stop by. If you could stop long enough for a quick dinner..maybe pizza and wine..that would be great...i just added a REL S5 sub yesterday. i have to get it set-up correctly which i will be doing this weekend.The dealer who delivered the sub thought the system was probably the best he had ever heard..

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System edited: Will be adding a REL S5 soon...

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Andrew,,i have thought about that in the past as i do have a very large...unfinished...room in the attic....alas...i am getting older...and do not want to climb 2 flights of stairs to hear the music...but i would be able to listen ANYTIME i wanted....HUM !!!!

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System edited: Have added 3 HF CT-1 pcs to the system which are superb. Have also added Psvane WE 845 tubes to my amps which are also superb. Will be adding Psvane WE 300 b tubes this month also.

calloway

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Getting ready to install 2 matched pairs of Psvane WE845 tubes.Just waiting on 1 of the tubes that had a loose filament tensioning spring to be replaced and back to me..should be in about 2 weeks..Can't wait..

calloway

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Map..i am with you on 'just listen and enjoy the music'...thanks

calloway

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Andrew...would you like to meet Tom sometime when you come over..?

calloway

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Andrew...that is SO cool.i am sure you and your wife are very proud parents.Beautiful name...Be sure to bring a picture when you stop by next time.The upgrade took that long due to a Danish company that was making the interstage transformers for Tom not being able..for a long time..to remove some 'hum' that Tom was hearing in them. they could not replicate it for about 6 months. They finally DID hear it and corrected the problem. Tom will NOT put something in just to make things better unless the part is perfect.Dave...He came over last sunday and just loved how great his amps sounded ..The other owner lives in Vermont.

calloway

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Mapman...there are some audiophiles that CAN reach their goal and be very satisfied with that end point.I knew from the beginning of this journey...some 25 years ago...what i wanted to eventually...hopefully...accomplish.I am there. There aren't many systems that compare to mine.

calloway

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Charles1dad..thanks..i will be ordering them after the 1st of the year...will get back with my thoughts

calloway

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Andrew..i currently use Sophia 'Royal Princess' 300B tubes..I really liked the improvement they made from the previous tubes that were in the 'Grails''.that being said..i am about to order 2- matched pairs of the Psvane 845 WEs to replace the Shuguang 845s i currently have that probably have close to 7k hours on them..if they sound as good as most say, i will probably buy 2 of their 300Bs also..that way i can start fresh ..As an aside..the other owner of the Grail amps just got them back after about a year of having them upgraded and stated that they were absolutely 'spactacular'...' much better than before the upgrades'..you are welcome ANYTIME to come and have some wine...pizza...and music..have a great Turkey day..Are you a new father yet..?..

calloway

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Mattnshilp...the simple answer is that i read the first review on Dagogo..i think...and the reviewer stated that he liked the Lumin better than the Aurender..i emailed the then USA dealer..Frank Dickens..at Silent Sourse Cables..and asked for a demo ..he obliged and it was love at first listen. i then bought the upgraded PSU from Kenneth Lau and it was a significant upgrade. The player ..along with MinimServer work almost flawlessly and the sound is amazing..thanks for the question

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Andrew..thanks for the kind words. You are always welcome.Charles...if you are ever in the area....please let me know as I would love to have you over...Dave

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System edited: New system pic with the Lumin Network Music Player and the power supply below.

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Jazz.....thanks for the compliment..as for the PS P10..i loved it when I had my preamp..Meitner cdsa-se..amps combination. when I decided to replace the preamp / Meitner combo with the Lumin Player,going directly into the amps, I tried it with and without the P10 ..going directly into what is a dedicated line and found that I liked the sound without the P10 better.The P10 DID improve the sound of the system with everything in it but had a softening effect with only the Lumin. ....as for the HD pcs ..I did not try the P4. my system is at a point now that I don't want to change anything..i truly believe that I am through searching for 'BETTER'.hope this helps some..dave

calloway

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Agear... you are correct.Tom and Pres are superb designers of , what i think, are the best tube amps made, but, as you say, the market is not flooded with buyers in that high atmosphere.

calloway

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Agear..thanks for the comment.as for the 'link' to a Chinese site i do not know anything about that. Chalice Audio, as a company, has taken a sabatical from the active marketing of their amp. they will, however, still make the 'Grail' amps per request.They are even making less expensive versions on request.

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System edited: with the latest addition of the HF CT-1U interconnect and the Stillpoint Ultra 5's under my Tidals the system has evolved once again..

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Agear...sorry i have not responded before now...the Lumin is superb. better then the PWD MKII and does dsd also. great company response with questions also. i bought it from frank dickens at silent source audio. great guy with a very good deal on the player.i am using both the Kinsky app and the Lumin app through my iPad as my controller..can't make up my mind on which one to stay with ..both are very good.i love the simplicity of the player. all aspects of the sound are improved over the PWD..in my system.the dsd downloads ..through Channel Classics are in dff which will not play on the Lumin app but do play on the Kinsky app which is why i may just stay with it..i do not think you will be disappointed with it...

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System edited: with the recent deletion of my Meitner cdsa-se player and the deletion of the PS Audio P-10 regenerator i am currently all computer based. i added a Lumin Network Music Player , which is superb and does dsd downloads, and the system is now superb and simple.the best of both worlds.

calloway

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with my addition of Rick Shultz's cables my system has been improved again.to say that his cables have improved my enjoyment would be a huge understatement.they are simply superb.

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System edited: The new HF cables are just amazing and have taken what was a superb system to an incredible one.

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System edited: have sold my Meitner player. the system is all computer based currently...at least for a while.will be adding High Fidelity CT-1E speaker cables soon.the music keeps getting incrementally better..

calloway

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Agear..that's great. you are always welcome..dave

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Charles1dad...thanks for the comment..the Grail's are very special indeed...my system, currently, is all computer based since selling my Meitner..at some point in time i will find either a used esoteric K-03 or a used dCS Puccini...i just had my preamp upgraded and it is still breaking in but gets better every day..dave

calloway

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Agear..i live in Danville,va which is about 2 hrs north of charlotte.take 85 north and merge on 29 N and follow that to Danville..i would love to have you over..a sat afternoon or sunday would be best for me..email me at humphrey(at)gamewood(dot)net..the amps ARE made in lynchburg actually. pres edmunds and tom willmann are the designers..tom being the main designer of the electrical aspects..he is brilliant..dave

calloway

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Agear...thanks for the kind comments on the amps..they are very special indeed.they sound even better then they look. if you are ever in the virginia neighborhood you are welcome to come by and take a listen..

calloway

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agear...the entertainment center does not affect the sound as i have the Tidal speakers significantly out in the room at the sides of the center.the amps are possibly the best SET amps made...they are incredible....as for room treatments i have bass traps in the corners and panels in the ceiling corners..i also have core furniture diffusers on the front walls and movable absorber panels..

calloway

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System edited: With the new additions of the HiDiamond HD3 Powercords and the High Fidelity CT-1 and CT-1E interconnects and the Elrod Statement Gold pc the system continues to improve...especially in the depth of the soundstage and the detail and bass.

calloway

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System edited: Changing a few pcs has made a substantial improvent in the sound.

calloway

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soliver...yes i have the MK 2 PWD with about 100 hrs on it now..it is a lot better then the previous version.. it still is improving but the difference is amazing. better transient attack..better soundstage..better vocal intonation...better imaging...to my ears it is a winner..my new PS Audio P-10 is also a great product and better then the Audience best conditioners...i have not compared the PWD to other DACs as i chose to go with the PWD from the outset.you may be able to get better but it would probably not be as easy to use and set up as the PWD and i can attest to the GREAT professional attention you get at PS Audio...if you find a good place to buy Echole cables i would greatlt appreciate it..thanks..dave

calloway

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Soliver.....now I understand and you are correct..they are amazing..thanks...I will be slowly replacing my 'obsessions' as I find used / demo versions..dave

calloway

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soliver...'don't poison your ears'....hardly....the 'signature' i/c i do have is much better...in my system...then the 'obsession'...and the Echole cables themselves are better...again..in my system...then the argento cables were..my audio friends agree also.....there is no hard and fast rule as to what will or won't sound good in a given system...

calloway

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System edited: the addition of the Isoclean 'Supreme Focus' powercord on my PS Audio P-10 has , again, elevated the sound of the system..it is a great pc..

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Charles1dad...when the 'new and improved'...Bartolucci transformers are installed i am told the bass will have more 'punch' and quickness'...and move more air...both of which will be nice...he, Bartolucci, apparently works with Chalice, to , from time to time, improve the transformers as he comes up with, what he thinks, are improvements on his previous model.as long as the upgrades are an 'improvement' and the benefit vs cost is reasonable, then i am all for it.i'll let you know what i hear after they are installed..maybe a month or so..

calloway

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Charles1dad...i guess everything can be improved...i can't wait to get the new transformers installed...they are very special..

calloway

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System edited: the addition of the PS Audio P-10 has greatly quieted the background and cleared up the sound even more.

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argyro..yes..pres edmunds explained the upgrades to me and they made sense. they have significantly improved the sound. there is one more upgrade to do and that involves replacing the Bartolucci transformers with a newer design that is ~ 40% heavier with thinner laminations and a tighter gap ( more Henry's ) resulting in more output power and better control of the low end.this will also benefit the soundstage and give more dynamics...

calloway

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System edited: have just received my amps back after an upgrade to the input chokes..an addition of a permanent bias regulator..soft start device ..complete cardas rewiring and other additions..they sound amazing..

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System edited: have begun the computer audio journey with the addition of the ps audio PWD.will add the PWT in the near future.

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System edited: since adding the echole cables the sound of the system has improved significantly. next step is some mods to the amps in the next month

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System edited: with the recent addition of the echole i/c...speaker cables and pc the sound is even better..did not think it was possible to improve upon the argento cables but in my system the echoles' have made a significant improvement..

calloway

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System edited: with the recent addition of the echole cables the sound is even better .....amazing

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System edited: with the addition of a new entertainment center and the new Chalice Audio SET amps i now feel that my 2 channel dream has been realized. i also have added the PA Audio pwd/pwt combo with the Bridge and my computer based system is off and running.

calloway

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arthursmuck..thanks for the comment...your system..however...is amazing..what a BEAUTIFUL..room and the pieces are superb...i am sure it sounds incredible...thanks again..dave

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System edited: my cabling is now finished with the newest addition of my 3rd argento fmr pc...i think i am finished for a good while ...music is now truely amazing....no thought process going on now...just enjoying...

calloway

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krell man...thanks for the nice comment..the piece to the rt of my rt channel speaker is a cabinet that i had a friend make for me that is made up of individual 4-drawer layers where each drawer holds ~ 30 sacds..the cool thing is that as you fillup the layers...mine are alphabetically stored by composer or artist....he just makes another 4 drawer layer and stacks it...eventually it will get too high and i'll have to start another one but for now it works great...all tongue in groove...he really did a great job.....it is a great piece of furniture....i do not know if he would be willing to make and ship but i will ask him if you are interested...he is a fabulous wood worker...thanks..dave smith

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System edited: i finally got around to adding pics of the system...the entertainment has a retractable middle shade to cover the glass from the tv and lower doors....the rear walls have core furniture diffusers.the back corners have echo bass traps.the celing,which is a 25',vaulted redwood beamed area, is basically a large diffuser also.the room is 25' long x 18' wide x 25' high.the tidal speakers are positioned far enough infront of the entertainment center as to not be affected by it...

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System edited: the addition of the lessloss pcs has greatly improved the sound...

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System edited: since aquiring the argento cabling my system has,again,been improved significantly...my next purchase..when possible..will be trading the 2-argento 'reference' speaker cables in for a single pair of the new 'flow' master reference speaker cables...i would also like to replace the piega c-40's with the tidal diacera contriva' speakers...

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System edited: with the addition of the biwired pair of argento serenity master reference speaker cables my system has evolved to a level i would not have thought possible after i last added the crystal cable 'ultra' speaker cables..the biwiring is truely amazing..for now....i am finished..

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System edited: with the addition of the crystal cables the system has again..evolved ...will be looking for a 2m 'dreamline' i/c and am going to try one of their 'ultra' pcs...

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System edited: have changed speaker cables from the pranawire 'cosmos' to the piega 'opus-1' as it was specifically designed for the c-40

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System edited: with the recent addition of the piega c-40 speakers i am 'done for now'..the sound is just superb

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System edited: ...i am looking forward to possibly trading my c-10 ltds for a pair of c-40's....then i might be finished.....for a while..

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System edited: will be auditioning the 'aluminata' speaker cables soon against my pranawire 'cosmos' cables

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System edited: my new 'aluminata' pcs are the best i have ever heard...

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System edited: 10/3/05: my system continues to improve as i search for cable synergy.the addition of the cyberlight p2a and the kubala-sosna 'emotion' pcs has made a significant improvement to what was already great sound.my next step will be to upgrade my first sound preamp.stay tuned

calloway

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System edited: my system..as most systems,is always evolving..my next audition will be the isoclean 80A3 socket and transformer conditioner.

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System edited: having just added the full audiocom mod by richard kern that he says sounds better then the meitner combo my scd-1 is finally where i want it. i will get it back next week.my new piega c-10 ltds should be a great upgrade from my p-10s'the new stealth 'indra' interconnects are,without a doubt,the best i have ever heard.

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System edited: my changes are the result of having sold almost my entire previous system this past summer only to start over.my current system's sound is 40% better then what i thought was unbeatable.my only other big move will be to trade in the piega p-10s' for the new,and much better, piega c-10 ltds.keep tuned

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